Lions and Muons: Optimization via Stochastic Frank-Wolfe under Heavy-Tailed Noise
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Stochastic Frank-Wolfe is a classical optimization method for solving constrained optimization problems. On the other hand, recent optimizers such as Lion and Muon have gained quite significant popularity in deep learning. In this work, building on recent initiatives, we provide a unifying perspective by interpreting these seemingly disparate methods through the lens of Stochastic Frank-Wolfe. Specifically, we show that Lion and Muon with weight decay can be viewed as special instances of a Stochastic Frank-Wolfe, and we establish their convergence guarantees in terms of the Frank-Wolfe gap, a standard stationarity measure in non-convex optimization for Frank-Wolfe methods. We further find that convergence to this gap implies convergence to a KKT point of the original problem under a norm constraint for Lion and Muon. Moreover, motivated by recent empirical findings that stochastic gradients in modern machine learning tasks often exhibit heavy-tailed distributions, we extend Stochastic Frank-Wolfe to settings with heavy-tailed noise by developing two robust variants with strong theoretical guarantees that hold for general compact convex sets without the need for a large batch size, filling the gap in the literature on Stochastic Frank-Wolfe for non-convex optimization. Our contributions in the later part of this work, in turn, yield new variants of Lion and Muon, that better accommodate heavy-tailed gradient noise, thereby enhancing their practical scope.
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- 2026CacheMuon: Using Temporal Preconditioning To Approximate Polar Factor15 Jun 2026
- 2026When to use what Schatten-p norm in deep learning?13 Jun 2026
- 2026Free Heavy-Tailed Lunch for Muon: A Theoretical Justification of Empirical Success12 Jun 2026
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- 2026MiMuon: Mixed Muon Optimizer with Improved Generalization for Large Models19 May 2026
- 2026Scale-Invariant Neural Network Optimization: Norm Geometry and Heavy-Tailed Noise18 May 2026
- 2026Constrained Stochastic Spectral Preconditioning Converges for Nonconvex Objectives12 May 2026
- 2026Muown: Row-Norm Control for Muon Optimization11 May 2026
- 2026When and Why SignSGD Outperforms SGD: A Theoretical Study Based on ℓ1-norm Lower Bounds7 May 2026
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- 2026Communication-Efficient Gluon in Federated Learning12 Apr 2026
- 2026MuonEq: Balancing Before Orthogonalization with Lightweight Equilibration30 Mar 2026
- 2026OLion: Approaching the Hadamard Ideal by Intersecting Spectral and ℓ∞ Implicit Biases1 Feb 2026
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- 2025A Tale of Two Geometries: Adaptive Optimizers and Non-Euclidean Descent25 Nov 2025
- 2025Federated Stochastic Minimax Optimization under Heavy-Tailed Noises6 Nov 2025
- 2025Isotropic Curvature Model for Understanding Deep Learning Optimization: Is Gradient Orthogonalization Optimal?1 Nov 2025
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- 2026Nonsmooth Optimization via Orthogonalized Momentum12 Sep 2026
- 2026Muon with Finite Newton-Schulz: The Smoothing Benefit in Nonsmooth Nonconvex Optimization26 Aug 2026
- 2026Federated Compositional Muon Optimizer for Matrix-Wise Models13 Aug 2026
- 2026Muse: Representation Geometry of Muon Beyond Normalized Momentum16 Jul 2026
- 2026Muon as a Residual Connection1 Jul 2026
- 2026Towards Understanding the Power and Limits of the Muon Optimizer: A River-Valley Perspective19 Jun 2026
- 2026CacheMuon: Using Temporal Preconditioning To Approximate Polar Factor15 Jun 2026
- 2026When to use what Schatten-p norm in deep learning?13 Jun 2026
- 2026Free Heavy-Tailed Lunch for Muon: A Theoretical Justification of Empirical Success12 Jun 2026
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