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MuonBP: Faster Muon via Block-Periodic Orthogonalization

arXiv 2510.16981 ↗First posted 19 Oct 2025cs.LG math.OCcited by 34

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Abstract (arXiv)

Gradient orthogonalization is a simple strategy that shows great utility in speeding up gradient descent. The Muon optimizer (Jordan, Jin, et al., 2024) combines gradient orthogonalization with first-order momentum and achieves significant improvement in data efficiency over Adam/AdamW (Loshchilov and Hutter, 2019) for language model training. However, when using model parallelism, gradient orthogonalization introduces additional overhead compared to coordinate-wise optimizers (such as AdamW) due to additional gather and scatter operations on gradient matrix shards from different devices. This additional communication can amount to a throughput hit of 5%-10% compared to Adam/AdamW. To remedy this, we propose Muon with Block-Periodic Orthogonalization (MuonBP), which applies orthogonalization independently to matrix shards on each device and periodically performs full orthogonalization to maintain training stability at scale. We show how to adjust the learning rate from the baseline to MuonBP and give convergence guarantees for this algorithm. Crucially, our theory dictates that we use two stepsizes: one for the blockwise orthogonalization steps, and one for the full orthogonalization steps. Our method is simple, requires minimal hyperparameter adjustments, and achieves competitive iteration complexity compared with baseline Muon while providing per-iteration throughput comparable to coordinate-wise methods such as AdamW. When training an 8B model with eight-way tensor parallelism and ZeRO optimizer state sharding, MuonBP achieves 8% throughput increase compared to Muon with no degradation in performance.

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  1. 2025Isotropic Curvature Model for Understanding Deep Learning Optimization: Is Gradient Orthogonalization Optimal?cited by 30
  2. 2025Beyond the Ideal: Analyzing the Inexact Muon Updatecited by 23
  3. 2026Muon2: Boosting Muon via Adaptive Second-Moment Preconditioningcited by 15
  4. 2025Dion2: A Simple Method to Shrink Matrix in Muoncited by 11
  5. 2026Insights on Muon from Simple Quadraticscited by 11
  6. 2026Powering Up Zeroth-Order Training via Subspace Gradient Orthogonalizationcited by 11
  7. 2026FISMO: Fisher-Structured Momentum-Orthogonalized Optimizercited by 10
  8. 2025Non-Euclidean SGD for Structured Optimization: Unified Analysis and Improved Ratescited by 8
  9. 2026TrasMuon: Trust-Region Adaptive Scaling for Orthogonalized Momentum Optimizerscited by 6
  10. 2026TEON: Tensorized Orthonormalization Beyond Layer-Wise Muon for Large Language Model Pre-Trainingcited by 5
  11. 2026MUON+: Towards More Effective Muon via One Additional Normalization Step for LLM Pre-trainingcited by 5
  12. 2026Canzona: A Unified, Asynchronous, and Load-Balanced Framework for Distributed Matrix-based Optimizerscited by 4
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  1. 2026Why Muon Outperforms Adam: A Curvature Perspectivecited by 4
  2. 2026Anytime Training with Schedule-Free Spectral Optimizationcited by 3
  3. 2026CacheMuon: Using Temporal Preconditioning To Approximate Polar Factorcited by 3
  4. 2026Dion3: Full-Stack Orthogonal Updatescited by 3
  5. 2026LionMuon: Alternating Spectral and Sign Descent for Efficient Trainingcited by 2
  6. 2026Spectral Scaling Laws of Muoncited by 2
  7. 2026Hierarchical Muon: Tiled Newton-Schulz Updates for Efficient Muon Optimizationcited by 2
  8. 2026Scale Weight Decay and Train Bettercited by 2
  9. 2026IFNSO: Iteration-Free Newton-Schulz Orthogonalizationcited by 1
  10. 2026When and Why Grouping Attention Heads Accelerates Muon Optimizationcited by 1
  11. 2026A Note on Stability for Orthogonalized Matrix Momentum with Client Samplingcited by 1
  12. 2026Muon Learns More Robust and Transferable Features than Adamcited by 1
  13. 2026Scaling Muon for Diffusion Transformerscited by 1
  14. 2026Orth-Dion: Eliminating Geometric Mismatch in Distributed Low-Rank Spectral Optimizationcited by 0
  15. 2026AMO: Operator-level Adaptive Muon Orthogonalizationcited by 0
  16. 2026MONA: Muon Optimizer with Nesterov Acceleration for Scalable Language Model Trainingcited by 0
  17. 2026Rethinking Bregman Divergences in Kronecker-Factored Optimizerscited by 0
  18. 2026Muse: Representation Geometry of Muon Beyond Normalized Momentumcited by 0
  19. 2026MOON: Multi-Objective OrthoNormalized Updates for Multitask Learningcited by 0
  20. 2026Relative Generalization Invariance of LLM Pretrainingcited by 0
  21. 2026Cost-free Spectral Estimation for Adaptive Newton--Schulz in Matrix Optimizerscited by 0
  22. 2026LionMuon: Alternating Spectral and Sign Descent for Efficient Trainingcited by 0