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Never Train from Scratch: Fair Comparison of Long-Sequence Models Requires Data-Driven Priors

arXiv 2310.02980 ↗First posted 4 Oct 2023cs.LG cs.CLcited by 34

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Abstract (arXiv)

Modeling long-range dependencies across sequences is a longstanding goal in machine learning and has led to architectures, such as state space models, that dramatically outperform Transformers on long sequences. However, these impressive empirical gains have been by and large demonstrated on benchmarks (e.g. Long Range Arena), where models are randomly initialized and trained to predict a target label from an input sequence. In this work, we show that random initialization leads to gross overestimation of the differences between architectures and that pretraining with standard denoising objectives, using textitonly the downstream task data, leads to dramatic gains across multiple architectures and to very small gaps between Transformers and state space models (SSMs). In stark contrast to prior works, we find vanilla Transformers to match the performance of S4 on Long Range Arena when properly pretrained, and we improve the best reported results of SSMs on the PathX-256 task by 20 absolute points. Subsequently, we analyze the utility of previously-proposed structured parameterizations for SSMs and show they become mostly redundant in the presence of data-driven initialization obtained through pretraining. Our work shows that, when evaluating different architectures on supervised tasks, incorporation of data-driven priors via pretraining is essential for reliable performance estimation, and can be done efficiently.

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  1. 2024State Space Model for New-Generation Network Alternative to Transformers: A Surveycited by 59
  2. 2024LLM-ESR: Large Language Models Enhancement for Long-tailed Sequential Recommendationcited by 47
  3. 2024Single Image Unlearning: Efficient Machine Unlearning in Multimodal Large Language Modelscited by 46
  4. 2024DDK: Distilling Domain Knowledge for Efficient Large Language Modelscited by 26
  5. 2024MetaLA: Unified Optimal Linear Approximation to Softmax Attention Mapcited by 21
  6. 2024State-Free Inference of State-Space Models: The Transfer Function Approachcited by 18
  7. 2024Mimetic Initialization Helps State Space Models Learn to Recallcited by 15
  8. 2025Bridge the Domains: Large Language Models Enhanced Cross-domain Sequential Recommendationcited by 15
  9. 2025Comba: Improving Bilinear RNNs with Closed-loop Controlcited by 15
  10. 2024Linear Transformers with Learnable Kernel Functions are Better In-Context Modelscited by 11
  11. 2024Perceiving Longer Sequences With Bi-Directional Cross-Attention Transformerscited by 11
  12. 2025Utilizing Strategic Pre-training to Reduce Overfitting: Baguan -- A Pre-trained Weather Forecasting Modelcited by 7
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  2. 2025Born a Transformer -- Always a Transformer? On the Effect of Pretraining on Architectural Abilitiescited by 6
  3. 2024Enhancing Masked Time-Series Modeling via Dropping Patchescited by 5
  4. 2025Linear Attention for Efficient Bidirectional Sequence Modelingcited by 4
  5. 2024Low-rank finetuning for LLMs: A fairness perspectivecited by 3
  6. 2024Neural timescales from a computational perspectivecited by 3
  7. 2024Revealing and Mitigating the Local Pattern Shortcuts of Mambacited by 3
  8. 2025Uncovering the Spectral Bias in Diagonal State Space Modelscited by 3
  9. 2024Length independent generalization bounds for deep SSM architectures via Rademacher contraction and stability constraintscited by 2
  10. 2024Pretrained Hybrids with MAD Skillscited by 2
  11. 2024Reparameterized Multi-Resolution Convolutions for Long Sequence Modellingcited by 2
  12. 2026Any-Subgroup Equivariant Networks via Symmetry Breakingcited by 2
  13. 2024Multimodal Fusion and Coherence Modeling for Video Topic Segmentationcited by 1
  14. 2024Birdie: Advancing State Space Models with Reward-Driven Objectives and Curriculacited by 1
  15. 2025LISM: Long-range Integrative State space Models via Input-Latent State Interactionscited by 1
  16. 2025PathMamba: A Hybrid Mamba-Transformer for Topologically Coherent Road Segmentation in Satellite Imagerycited by 1
  17. 2026Towards Understanding Self-Pretraining for Sequence Classificationcited by 1
  18. 2025Aligning Inductive Bias for Data-Efficient Generalization in State Space Modelscited by 0
  19. 2026WaveSSM: Multiscale State-Space Models for Non-stationary Signal Attentioncited by 0
  20. 2026Continuity Laws for Sequential Modelscited by 0
  21. 2026Is Self-Pretraining really useful to improve diagnosis in medical Time Series?cited by 0
  22. 2026Learnable Low-Rank Polynomial Sketch for Effective Linear Attentioncited by 0

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