Sequential Beats Joint: On the Interplay between On-Policy Distillation and RLVR
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Abstract (arXiv)
Reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards (RLVR) and on-policy distillation (OPD) have emerged as two dominant methods for post-training reasoning LLMs. Prior work uses OPD's dense token-level supervision to complement the sparse RL reward, fusing the two signals within a single step: either as a weighted-additive combination or a teacher-modulated rescaling of the RL advantage. In this paper, we show that a simple two-stage scheme, OPD-then-RL, consistently outperforms pure OPD, pure RLVR, and all such joint baselines across logic and math reasoning benchmarks. Beyond the empirical results, we further provide a systematic understanding of this through pass@k behavior, learning dynamics, and parameter updates, yielding a consistent explanation: OPD expands the student's coverage of teacher-supported solutions and RL sharpens within that support, while jointly optimizing the two signals causes them to interfere. To provide a practical recipe, we find that the OPD validation score is the key signal for when to switch to RL, and that OPD is a better cold start for RL than SFT. Together, our results establish OPD-then-RL as a simple yet strong way to combine the two methods, turning two entangled signals into complementary stages.
Key facts. Cited by 11 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026). Placed in Reinforcement learning for reasoning, one of 17 directions in LLM reasoning. Builds on 33 of its 37 references that are in the map. First posted on arXiv 3 Sep 2026.
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33 of 37 references.
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- 2025Rethinking Expert Trajectory Utilization in LLM Post-training for Mathematical Reasoning12 Dec
- 2025SRFT: A Single-Stage Method with Supervised and Reinforcement Fine-Tuning for Reasoning24 Jun
- 2025Learning What Reinforcement Learning Can't: Interleaved Online Fine-Tuning for Hardest Questions9 Jun
- 2025Learning to Reason under Off-Policy Guidance21 Apr
- 2025Does Reinforcement Learning Really Incentivize Reasoning Capacity in LLMs Beyond the Base Model?18 Apr
- 2025DeepMath-103K: A Large-Scale, Challenging, Decontaminated, and Verifiable Mathematical Dataset for Advancing Reasoning15 Apr
- 2017Proximal Policy Optimization Algorithms20 Jul
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- 2025ZebraLogic: On the Scaling Limits of LLMs for Logical Reasoningcited by 201
- 2026Entropy-Aware On-Policy Distillation of Language Modelscited by 175
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- 2025Towards a Unified View of Large Language Model Post-Trainingcited by 36
- 2026Reinforcement-aware Knowledge Distillation for LLM Reasoningcited by 35
- 2026Rebellious Student: Reversing Teacher Signals for Reasoning Exploration with Self-Distilled RLVRcited by 15
- 2026Beyond GRPO and On-Policy Distillation: An Empirical Sparse-to-Dense Reward Principle for Language-Model Post-Trainingcited by 11
- 2026Beyond SFT-to-RL: Pre-alignment via Black-Box On-Policy Distillation for Multimodal RLcited by 8
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- 2026From Imitation to Reward Discovery: On-Policy Warmup for Agentic RL30 Sep 2026
- 2026Guide, Then Let Go: Gap-Adaptive Teacher Scheduling for Sparse-Reward Agentic RL29 Sep 2026
- 2026Reward-Aligned Reweighting for On-Policy Distillation28 Sep 2026
- 2026TIDE: Teacher-Student Transition via Informative Distillation and Exploration for Agentic RL28 Sep 2026
- 2026Expected Reasoning-Step Return Unifies On-Policy Learning from Rewards and Teachers26 Sep 2026
- 2026RL Starts before RL: On Policy Distillation for Better Reinforcement Learning23 Sep 2026
- 2026RetireOPD: Self-Retiring On-Policy Distillation for Agentic Reinforcement Learning17 Sep 2026
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