Getting to the Point: Pointing Improves LVLMs at Counting
On the map: LLM reasoning → Spatial and embodied reasoning
Abstract (arXiv)
Pointing-based methods decompose complex tasks as sequential grounding and reasoning steps. Given a query, the model first grounds the relevant objects by generating their coordinates, and then predicts an answer conditioned on these points. While this approach has been shown to increase the performance of Large Vision-Language Models (LVLMs), it remains unclear why and how it improves the models' visual reasoning. In this work, we evaluate pointing-based methods in the task of zero-shot counting in visual scenes. We experiment with multiple fine-tuning and training-free approaches on state-of-the-art LVLMs, and compare them with Point-then-Count (PtC), where models first generate point coordinates for the target objects and then predict their count. Our results show that PtC achieves the highest accuracy among the evaluated approaches, with predicted points correctly grounded in the image in more than 94% of cases (based on F1-score). Mechanistic analyses show that gains arise from spatial information encoded in the predicted coordinates. Nevertheless, grounding performance varies across image regions, revealing spatial biases. Finally, the results indicate that PtC improves out-of-distribution generalization on both synthetic and real data, suggesting the potential of coordinates to help LVLMs improve their counting skills.
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