Rate of Model Collapse in Recursive Training
On the map: Synthetic data and self-improvement for LLMs → Model collapse from synthetic data
Abstract (arXiv)
Given the ease of creating synthetic data from machine learning models, new models can be potentially trained on synthetic data generated by previous models. This recursive training process raises concerns about the long-term impact on model quality. As models are recursively trained on generated data from previous rounds, their ability to capture the nuances of the original human-generated data may degrade. This is often referred to as model collapse. In this work, we ask how fast model collapse occurs for some well-studied distribution families under maximum likelihood (ML or near ML) estimation during recursive training. Surprisingly, even for fundamental distributions such as discrete and Gaussian distributions, the exact rate of model collapse is unknown. In this work, we theoretically characterize the rate of collapse in these fundamental settings and complement it with experimental evaluations. Our results show that for discrete distributions, the time to forget a word is approximately linearly dependent on the number of times it occurred in the original corpus, and for Gaussian models, the standard deviation reduces to zero roughly at n iterations, where n is the number of samples at each iteration. Both of these findings imply that model forgetting, at least in these simple distributions under near ML estimation with many samples, takes a long time.
Key facts. Cited by 22 papers in the map (data through 7 Oct 2026). Placed in Model collapse from synthetic data, one of 13 directions in Synthetic data and self-improvement for LLMs. Builds on 18 of its 27 references that are in the map. First posted on arXiv 23 Dec 2024.
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