ROOT: Robust Orthogonalized Optimizer for Neural Network Training
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The optimization of large language models (LLMs) remains a critical challenge, particularly as model scaling exacerbates sensitivity to algorithmic imprecision and training instability. Recent advances in optimizers have improved convergence efficiency through momentum orthogonalization, but suffer from two key robustness limitations: dimensional fragility in orthogonalization precision and vulnerability to outlier-induced noise. To address these robustness challenges, we introduce ROOT, a Robust Orthogonalized Optimizer that enhances training stability through dual robustness mechanisms. First, we develop a dimension-robust orthogonalization scheme using adaptive Newton iterations with fine-grained coefficients tailored to specific matrix sizes, ensuring consistent precision across diverse architectural configurations. Second, we introduce an optimization-robust framework via proximal optimization that suppresses outlier noise while preserving meaningful gradient directions. Extensive experiments demonstrate that ROOT achieves significantly improved robustness, with faster convergence and superior final performance compared to both Muon and Adam-based optimizers, particularly in noisy and non-convex scenarios. Our work establishes a new paradigm for developing robust and precise optimizers capable of handling the complexities of modern large-scale model training. The code will be available at https://github.com/huawei-noah/noah-research/tree/master/ROOT.
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- 2026AMUSE: Anytime Muon with Stable Gradient Evaluationcited by 3
- 2026Momentum as Residual-Driven Multiplier Correction for Deep Learning Optimizationcited by 2
- 2026IFNSO: Iteration-Free Newton-Schulz Orthogonalizationcited by 1
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- 2026Momentum as Residual-Driven Multiplier Correction for Deep Learning Optimization13 Aug 2026
- 2026Full-Stack FP4: Stable LLM Pretraining with Quantized Projections, Optimizers, and Attention5 Jul 2026
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- 2026Muonp: Muon with Fractional Spectral Powers11 Jun 2026
- 2026Can Entry-Wise Clipping Give Spectral Control of Stochastic Gradients?26 May 2026
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- 2026AMO: Operator-level Adaptive Muon Orthogonalization18 May 2026
- 2026Dimension-Free Saddle-Point Escape in Muon10 May 2026
- 2026Adam Improves Muon: Adaptive Moment Estimation with Orthogonalized Momentum19 Feb 2026
- 2026Canzona: A Unified, Asynchronous, and Load-Balanced Framework for Distributed Matrix-based Optimizers4 Feb 2026
- 2026IFNSO: Iteration-Free Newton-Schulz Orthogonalization18 Jan 2026