MuonAll: Muon Variant for Efficient Finetuning of Large Language Models
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Abstract (arXiv)
Muon optimizer has demonstrated robust results in pretraining of language models but its performance in finetuning of existing public pretrained models is not yet explored. Currently, Muon is used along with AdamW introducing a scope of improvement for adopting all parameters inside Muon. We introduce MuonAll, which incorporates all the parameters inside Muon by transforming into 2D matrices. We conduct extensive finetuning experiments across publicly available language models with model sizes upto half billion parameters. Muon and MuonAll perform at par with AdamW across major benchmarks, highlighting their effectiveness as alternative optimizers. We open-source the distributed implementations of Muon and MuonAll, available at https://github.com/Saurabh750/optimizer
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Citing papers per year: 2026: 7.
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- 2026MuonEq: Balancing Before Orthogonalization with Lightweight Equilibrationcited by 17
- 2026Spectral Flattening Is All Muon Needs: How Orthogonalization Controls Learning Rate and Convergencecited by 5
- 2026OLion: Approaching the Hadamard Ideal by Intersecting Spectral and ℓ∞ Implicit Biasescited by 3
- 2026When and Why SignSGD Outperforms SGD: A Theoretical Study Based on ℓ1-norm Lower Boundscited by 2
- 2026Tight Complexity of Muon under Heavy-Tailed Noisecited by 2
- 2026IFNSO: Iteration-Free Newton-Schulz Orthogonalizationcited by 1
- 2026AF-Muon: An AdamW-Free Muon Optimizer for Tied-Embedding Modelscited by 0
- 2026AF-Muon: An AdamW-Free Muon Optimizer for Tied-Embedding Models1 Oct 2026
- 2026Tight Complexity of Muon under Heavy-Tailed Noise18 May 2026
- 2026Spectral Flattening Is All Muon Needs: How Orthogonalization Controls Learning Rate and Convergence13 May 2026
- 2026When and Why SignSGD Outperforms SGD: A Theoretical Study Based on ℓ1-norm Lower Bounds7 May 2026
- 2026MuonEq: Balancing Before Orthogonalization with Lightweight Equilibration30 Mar 2026
- 2026OLion: Approaching the Hadamard Ideal by Intersecting Spectral and ℓ∞ Implicit Biases1 Feb 2026
- 2026IFNSO: Iteration-Free Newton-Schulz Orthogonalization18 Jan 2026