What Can You Do When You Have Zero Rewards During RL?
On the map: LLM reasoning → Reinforcement learning for reasoning
Abstract (arXiv)
Reinforcement learning (RL) with outcome-based rewards has proven effective for improving large language models (LLMs) on complex reasoning tasks. However, its success often depends on the base model occasionally sampling correct solutions. When no correct solutions are sampled, training encounters a zero-reward barrier where learning stalls due to zero gradients. We study this scenario through the graph search task introduced in Bachmann et al. (2024) and evaluate recent methods that incorporate desirable components such as dense rewards, diversity incentives, and improved credit assignment. Our experiments show that none of these approaches overcome the zero-reward barrier if the base model never produces a correct answer. In contrast, we find that a simple data-centric intervention of adding easier samples to the training set enables the model to eventually solve the original hard task despite starting from zero reward. Importantly, this succeeds without modifying the RL algorithm itself. Because official implementations of several baselines were unavailable, we developed our own, which allowed us to conduct a detailed analysis of their failure modes. We release these implementations to support further research at: https://github.com/rl4reasoning/rl-baselines
Key facts. Cited by 7 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026). Placed in Reinforcement learning for reasoning, one of 17 directions in LLM reasoning. Builds on 18 of its 25 references that are in the map. First posted on arXiv 4 Oct 2025.
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18 of 25 references.
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- 2025Cognitive Behaviors that Enable Self-Improving Reasoners, or, Four Habits of Highly Effective STaRs3 Mar
- 2025Exploring the Limit of Outcome Reward for Learning Mathematical Reasoning10 Feb
- 2025DeepSeek-R1: Incentivizing Reasoning Capability in LLMs via Reinforcement Learning22 Jan
- 2024Rewarding Progress: Scaling Automated Process Verifiers for LLM Reasoning10 Oct
- 2017Proximal Policy Optimization Algorithms20 Jul
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- 2024Inference-Aware Fine-Tuning for Best-of-N Sampling in Large Language Modelscited by 89
- 2024Self-playing Adversarial Language Game Enhances LLM Reasoningcited by 83
- 2025e3: Learning to Explore Enables Extrapolation of Test-Time Compute for LLMscited by 59
- 2025Self-Questioning Language Modelscited by 50
- 2025Improving Rationality in the Reasoning Process of Language Models through Self-playing Gamecited by 7
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- 2026Learning to Reason with Curriculum I: Provable Benefits of Autocurriculumcited by 4
- 2026Skip-Connected Policy Optimization for Implicit Advantagecited by 1
- 2026Teaching the Way, Not the Answer: Privileged Tutoring Distillation for Multimodal Policy Optimizationcited by 1
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- 2026The Chase Is the Curriculum, the Capture Anchors the Credit: Pursuit-Evasion Self-Play for Zero-Data LLM Reasoning22 Aug 2026
- 2026Leveraging Instruction Tuning and Merging for Reasoning Model Adaptation16 Jul 2026
- 2026Teaching the Way, Not the Answer: Privileged Tutoring Distillation for Multimodal Policy Optimization5 Jun 2026
- 2026Learning, Fast and Slow: Towards LLMs That Adapt Continually12 May 2026
- 2026Scaling Self-Play with Self-Guidance22 Apr 2026
- 2026Skip-Connected Policy Optimization for Implicit Advantage9 Apr 2026
- 2026Learning to Reason with Curriculum I: Provable Benefits of Autocurriculum18 Mar 2026
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