Flatness is Necessary, Neural Collapse is Not: Rethinking Generalization via Grokking
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Abstract (arXiv)
Neural collapse, i.e., the emergence of highly symmetric, class-wise clustered representations, is frequently observed in deep networks and is often assumed to reflect or enable generalization. In parallel, flatness of the loss landscape has been theoretically and empirically linked to generalization. Yet, the causal role of either phenomenon remains unclear: Are they prerequisites for generalization, or merely by-products of training dynamics? We disentangle these questions using grokking, a training regime in which memorization precedes generalization, allowing us to temporally separate generalization from training dynamics and we find that while both neural collapse and relative flatness emerge near the onset of generalization, only flatness consistently predicts it. Models encouraged to collapse or prevented from collapsing generalize equally well, whereas models regularized away from flat solutions exhibit delayed generalization, resembling grokking, even in architectures and datasets where it does not typically occur. Furthermore, we show theoretically that neural collapse leads to relative flatness under classical assumptions, explaining their empirical co-occurrence. Our results support the view that relative flatness is a potentially necessary and more fundamental property for generalization, and demonstrate how grokking can serve as a powerful probe for isolating its geometric underpinnings.
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- 2026Geometric and Information Compression of Representations in Deep Learningcited by 0
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- 2026Simplifying Neural Networks During Training30 Jul 2026
- 2026Geometric and Information Compression of Representations in Deep Learning19 Jun 2026
- 2026Grokking or Glitching? How Low-Precision Drives Slingshot Loss Spikes7 May 2026
- 2026An accurate flatness measure to estimate the generalization performance of CNN models9 Mar 2026
- 2025When Flatness Does (Not) Guarantee Adversarial Robustness16 Oct 2025
- 2025Explaining Grokking and Information Bottleneck through Neural Collapse Emergence25 Sep 2025