Fisher Information and Natural Gradient Learning of Random Deep Networks
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A deep neural network is a hierarchical nonlinear model transforming input signals to output signals. Its input-output relation is considered to be stochastic, being described for a given input by a parameterized conditional probability distribution of outputs. The space of parameters consisting of weights and biases is a Riemannian manifold, where the metric is defined by the Fisher information matrix. The natural gradient method uses the steepest descent direction in a Riemannian manifold, so it is effective in learning, avoiding plateaus. It requires inversion of the Fisher information matrix, however, which is practically impossible when the matrix has a huge number of dimensions. Many methods for approximating the natural gradient have therefore been introduced. The present paper uses statistical neurodynamical method to reveal the properties of the Fisher information matrix in a net of random connections under the mean field approximation. We prove that the Fisher information matrix is unit-wise block diagonal supplemented by small order terms of off-block-diagonal elements, which provides a justification for the quasi-diagonal natural gradient method by Y. Ollivier. A unitwise block-diagonal Fisher metrix reduces to the tensor product of the Fisher information matrices of single units. We further prove that the Fisher information matrix of a single unit has a simple reduced form, a sum of a diagonal matrix and a rank 2 matrix of weight-bias correlations. We obtain the inverse of Fisher information explicitly. We then have an explicit form of the natural gradient, without relying on the numerical matrix inversion, which drastically speeds up stochastic gradient learning.
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- 2021On the Variance of the Fisher Information for Deep Learningcited by 22
- 2024FAdam: Adam is a natural gradient optimizer using diagonal empirical Fisher informationcited by 17
- 2023Quantum Machine Learning on Near-Term Quantum Devices: Current State of Supervised and Unsupervised Techniques for Real-World Applicationscited by 14
- 2022Lagrangian Manifold Monte Carlo on Monge Patchescited by 11
- 2024Trade-Offs of Diagonal Fisher Information Matrix Estimatorscited by 10
- 2022A Mini-Block Fisher Method for Deep Neural Networkscited by 8
- 2024Are queries and keys always relevant? A case study on Transformer wave functionscited by 5
- 2025Geometric-disentangelment Unlearningcited by 4
- 2025Module-Aware Parameter-Efficient Machine Unlearning on Transformerscited by 3
- 2021Approximate Spectral Decomposition of Fisher Information Matrix for Simple ReLU Networkscited by 2
- 2025Grokking vs. Learning: Same Features, Different Encodingscited by 2
- 2025RSAVQ: Riemannian Sensitivity-Aware Vector Quantization for Large Language Modelscited by 2
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- 2025SpikeFit: Towards Optimal Deployment of Spiking Networks on Neuromorphic Hardwarecited by 2
- 2025The Affine Divergence: Aligning Activation Updates Beyond Normalisationcited by 2
- 2026Per-parameter Task Arithmetic for Unlearning in Large Language Modelscited by 2
- 2026On the Convergence Behavior of Preconditioned Gradient Descent Toward the Rich Learning Regimecited by 1
- 2026An Isotropic Approach to Efficient Uncertainty Quantification with Gradient Normscited by 1
- 2026Where Pretraining writes and Alignment reads: the asymmetry of Transformer weight spacecited by 1
- 2026Conditioned Direct Feedback Alignment via Activity and Error Geometrycited by 1
- 2022Component-Wise Natural Gradient Descent -- An Efficient Neural Network Optimizationcited by 0
- 2025PLUMAGE: Probabilistic Low rank Unbiased Min Variance Gradient Estimator for Efficient Large Model Trainingcited by 0
- 2025Optimizing Multi-Modality Trackers via Significance-Regularized Tuningcited by 0
- 2025Beyond Softmax: A Natural Parameterization for Categorical Random Variablescited by 0
- 2025Gaussian Equivalence for Self-Attention: Asymptotic Spectral Analysis of Attention Matrixcited by 0
- 2025Fisher Information, Training and Bias in Fourier Regression Modelscited by 0
- 2025Learning under Distributional Drift: Prequential Reproducibility as an Intrinsic Statistical Resourcecited by 0
- 2026Focus on What Matters: Fisher-Guided Adaptive Multimodal Fusion for Vulnerability Detectioncited by 0
- 2026Gating Enables Curvature: A Geometric Expressivity Gap in Attentioncited by 0
- 2026Conditioned Direct Feedback Alignment via Activity and Error Geometry20 Jul 2026
- 2026Where Pretraining writes and Alignment reads: the asymmetry of Transformer weight space15 May 2026
- 2026Gating Enables Curvature: A Geometric Expressivity Gap in Attention16 Apr 2026
- 2026An Isotropic Approach to Efficient Uncertainty Quantification with Gradient Norms31 Mar 2026
- 2026Per-parameter Task Arithmetic for Unlearning in Large Language Models29 Jan 2026
- 2026On the Convergence Behavior of Preconditioned Gradient Descent Toward the Rich Learning Regime6 Jan 2026
- 2026Focus on What Matters: Fisher-Guided Adaptive Multimodal Fusion for Vulnerability Detection5 Jan 2026
- 2025The Affine Divergence: Aligning Activation Updates Beyond Normalisation24 Dec 2025
- 2025Learning under Distributional Drift: Prequential Reproducibility as an Intrinsic Statistical Resource15 Dec 2025
- 2025Geometric-disentangelment Unlearning21 Nov 2025
- 2025SpikeFit: Towards Optimal Deployment of Spiking Networks on Neuromorphic Hardware17 Oct 2025
- 2025Fisher Information, Training and Bias in Fourier Regression Models8 Oct 2025
16 more
- 2025Gaussian Equivalence for Self-Attention: Asymptotic Spectral Analysis of Attention Matrix8 Oct 2025
- 2025Beyond Softmax: A Natural Parameterization for Categorical Random Variables29 Sep 2025
- 2025RSAVQ: Riemannian Sensitivity-Aware Vector Quantization for Large Language Models24 Sep 2025
- 2025Optimizing Multi-Modality Trackers via Significance-Regularized Tuning24 Aug 2025
- 2025Module-Aware Parameter-Efficient Machine Unlearning on Transformers24 Aug 2025
- 2025PLUMAGE: Probabilistic Low rank Unbiased Min Variance Gradient Estimator for Efficient Large Model Training23 May 2025
- 2025Grokking vs. Learning: Same Features, Different Encodings3 Feb 2025
- 2024Are queries and keys always relevant? A case study on Transformer wave functions29 May 2024
- 2024FAdam: Adam is a natural gradient optimizer using diagonal empirical Fisher information21 May 2024
- 2024Trade-Offs of Diagonal Fisher Information Matrix Estimators8 Feb 2024
- 2023Quantum Machine Learning on Near-Term Quantum Devices: Current State of Supervised and Unsupervised Techniques for Real-World Applications3 Jul 2023
- 2022Component-Wise Natural Gradient Descent -- An Efficient Neural Network Optimization11 Oct 2022
- 2022A Mini-Block Fisher Method for Deep Neural Networks8 Feb 2022
- 2022Lagrangian Manifold Monte Carlo on Monge Patches1 Feb 2022
- 2021Approximate Spectral Decomposition of Fisher Information Matrix for Simple ReLU Networks30 Nov 2021
- 2021On the Variance of the Fisher Information for Deep Learning9 Jul 2021
- 2026Per-parameter Task Arithmetic for Unlearning in Large Language Models29 Jan 2026
- 2025Geometric-disentangelment Unlearning21 Nov 2025
- 2025Module-Aware Parameter-Efficient Machine Unlearning on Transformers24 Aug 2025
- 2021On the Variance of the Fisher Information for Deep Learningcited by 22
- 2024FAdam: Adam is a natural gradient optimizer using diagonal empirical Fisher informationcited by 17
- 2023Quantum Machine Learning on Near-Term Quantum Devices: Current State of Supervised and Unsupervised Techniques for Real-World Applicationscited by 14
- 2022Lagrangian Manifold Monte Carlo on Monge Patchescited by 11
- 2024Trade-Offs of Diagonal Fisher Information Matrix Estimatorscited by 10
- 2022A Mini-Block Fisher Method for Deep Neural Networkscited by 8
- 2024Are queries and keys always relevant? A case study on Transformer wave functionscited by 5
- 2021Approximate Spectral Decomposition of Fisher Information Matrix for Simple ReLU Networkscited by 2
- 2025Grokking vs. Learning: Same Features, Different Encodingscited by 2
- 2025RSAVQ: Riemannian Sensitivity-Aware Vector Quantization for Large Language Modelscited by 2
- 2025SpikeFit: Towards Optimal Deployment of Spiking Networks on Neuromorphic Hardwarecited by 2
- 2025The Affine Divergence: Aligning Activation Updates Beyond Normalisationcited by 2
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- 2026Conditioned Direct Feedback Alignment via Activity and Error Geometry20 Jul 2026
- 2026Gating Enables Curvature: A Geometric Expressivity Gap in Attention16 Apr 2026
- 2026An Isotropic Approach to Efficient Uncertainty Quantification with Gradient Norms31 Mar 2026
- 2026On the Convergence Behavior of Preconditioned Gradient Descent Toward the Rich Learning Regime6 Jan 2026
- 2026Focus on What Matters: Fisher-Guided Adaptive Multimodal Fusion for Vulnerability Detection5 Jan 2026
- 2025The Affine Divergence: Aligning Activation Updates Beyond Normalisation24 Dec 2025
- 2025Learning under Distributional Drift: Prequential Reproducibility as an Intrinsic Statistical Resource15 Dec 2025
- 2025SpikeFit: Towards Optimal Deployment of Spiking Networks on Neuromorphic Hardware17 Oct 2025
- 2025Fisher Information, Training and Bias in Fourier Regression Models8 Oct 2025
- 2025Gaussian Equivalence for Self-Attention: Asymptotic Spectral Analysis of Attention Matrix8 Oct 2025
- 2025Beyond Softmax: A Natural Parameterization for Categorical Random Variables29 Sep 2025
- 2025RSAVQ: Riemannian Sensitivity-Aware Vector Quantization for Large Language Models24 Sep 2025
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