On the Impossibility of Unbiased and Length-Invariant Policy Optimization with Outcome Rewards
On the map: LLM reasoning → Reinforcement learning for reasoning
Abstract (arXiv)
Group Relative Policy Optimization (GRPO) is the dominant reinforcement learning algorithm for training reasoning capabilities in large language models, notably adopted by DeepSeek-R1. The recent improvement Dr. GRPO (COLM 2025) identifies the response-level length bias caused by per-trajectory length normalization in GRPO and proposes removing this normalization, claiming the resulting optimizer is "unbiased." We show that this claim is incomplete. Specifically, we establish an impossibility theorem: under the standard outcome reward + GRPO setting, no length-based weighting scheme can simultaneously achieve the following two properties. (P1) Gradient unbiasedness: the gradient estimator is an unbiased estimate of the true policy gradient. (P2) Length invariance: each trajectory's effective contribution to the gradient is independent of its token length. GRPO approximately satisfies P2 but violates P1; Dr. GRPO satisfies P1 but violates P2. We characterize the complete tradeoff spectrum via the parametric family f_alpha(L) = L^{alpha - 1}, where alpha = 0 recovers GRPO, alpha = 1 recovers Dr. GRPO, and provide quantitative analysis showing that Dr. GRPO's length bias can cause longer trajectories to dominate gradient updates by a factor proportional to the length ratio. Our results reveal that neither algorithm is universally "done right"; they occupy opposite ends of a fundamental and unavoidable tradeoff.
Key facts. Cited by 1 paper in the map (data through 7 Oct 2026). Placed in Reinforcement learning for reasoning, one of 17 directions in LLM reasoning. Builds on 5 of its 11 references that are in the map. First posted on arXiv 25 Jul 2026.
Builds on
5 of 11 references.
Closest ancestors · 3
Same direction, newest first
- 2026Your Group-Relative Advantage Is Biased13 Jan
- 2025Open-Reasoner-Zero: An Open Source Approach to Scaling Up Reinforcement Learning on the Base Model31 Mar
- 2025Understanding R1-Zero-Like Training: A Critical Perspective26 Mar
Other references · 2
Built on by
Citing papers per year: 2026: 1.
1 paper.
Similar, not cited
Close in wording, no citation either way
- 2026Demystifying Group Relative Policy Optimization: Its Policy Gradient is a U-Statistic
- 2026How Off-Policy Can GRPO Be? Mu-GRPO for Efficient LLM Reinforcement Learning
- 2026Why GRPO Needs Normalization: A Local-Curvature Perspective on Adaptive Gradients
- 2026On the Hidden Objective Biases of Group-based Reinforcement Learning
- 2025λ-GRPO: Unifying the GRPO Frameworks with Learnable Token Preferences
- 2026AMIR-GRPO: Inducing Implicit Preference Signals into GRPO
- 2026Constrained Group Relative Policy Optimization
- 2025On the Effect of Negative Gradient in Group Relative Deep Reinforcement Optimization