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Learning Without Critics? Revisiting GRPO in Classical Reinforcement Learning Environments

arXiv 2511.03527 ↗First posted 5 Nov 2025cs.LGcited by 6

On the map: LLM reasoning → Reinforcement learning for reasoning

Abstract (arXiv)

Group Relative Policy Optimization (GRPO) has emerged as a scalable alternative to Proximal Policy Optimization (PPO) by eliminating the learned critic and instead estimating advantages through group-relative comparisons of trajectories. This simplification raises fundamental questions about the necessity of learned baselines in policy-gradient methods. We present the first systematic study of GRPO in classical single-task reinforcement learning environments, spanning discrete and continuous control tasks. Through controlled ablations isolating baselines, discounting, and group sampling, we reveal three key findings: (1) learned critics remain essential for long-horizon tasks: all critic-free baselines underperform PPO except in short-horizon environments like CartPole where episodic returns can be effective; (2) GRPO benefits from high discount factors (gamma = 0.99) except in HalfCheetah, where lack of early termination favors moderate discounting (gamma = 0.9); (3) smaller group sizes outperform larger ones, suggesting limitations in batch-based grouping strategies that mix unrelated episodes. These results reveal both the limitations of critic-free methods in classical control and the specific conditions where they remain viable alternatives to learned value functions.

Key facts. Cited by 6 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026). Placed in Reinforcement learning for reasoning, one of 17 directions in LLM reasoning. Builds on 12 of its 29 references that are in the map. First posted on arXiv 5 Nov 2025.

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  2. 2017Proximal Policy Optimization Algorithms20 Jul

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  1. 2025Revisiting Group Relative Policy Optimization: Insights into On-Policy and Off-Policy Training
  2. 2026On the Hidden Objective Biases of Group-based Reinforcement Learning
  3. 2025TIC-GRPO: Provable and Efficient Optimization for Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback
  4. 2025Group-Relative REINFORCE Is Secretly an Off-Policy Algorithm: Demystifying Some Myths About GRPO and Its Friends
  5. 2026Constrained Group Relative Policy Optimization
  6. 2025Group Policy Gradient
  7. 2026How Off-Policy Can GRPO Be? Mu-GRPO for Efficient LLM Reinforcement Learning
  8. 2026Advantage Collapse in Group Relative Policy Optimization: Diagnosis and Mitigation