The Signal is in the Steps: Local Scoring for Reasoning Data Selection
On the map: Knowledge distillation → Knowledge distillation for LLMs
Abstract (arXiv)
Distilling long-form reasoning from teacher models into smaller students requires selecting which candidate solutions to train on. Recent work argues that one should select responses the student model assigns highest probability, i.e., favoring solutions ``natural'' to the student. However, we find that this approach works within a single teacher but fails when scaling to long reasoning traces from multiple diverse teachers. We identify a key cause: this approach scores entire solutions, but students generalize by recombining familiar reasoning steps, not by memorizing complete solutions. Full-trajectory scoring optimizes the wrong target; it rewards global fluency while the transferable signal lies in local step transitions. We propose Local Average Log Probability (LALP), which scores each reasoning step using only a small window of preceding context, measuring whether each step is justified by its immediate premises rather than whether the full response looks natural to the student. LALP enables two practical use cases: selecting the best teacher before fine-tuning and curating training data from diverse teacher pools. Across math, coding, and science reasoning tasks, LALP consistently improves accuracy when selecting the most natural solutions by a large margin.
Key facts. Cited by 8 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026). Placed in Knowledge distillation for LLMs, one of 12 directions in Knowledge distillation. Builds on 41 of its 49 references that are in the map. First posted on arXiv 5 Oct 2025.
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