Muon: Training and Trade-offs with Latent Attention and MoE
On the map: Mixture-of-experts → Efficient MoE training and inference systems
Abstract (arXiv)
We present a comprehensive theoretical and empirical study of the Muon optimizer for training transformers only with a small to medium decoder (30M - 200M parameters), with an emphasis on its mathematical foundations, convergence properties and synergistic interactions with modern architectural optimizations. Building on recent work showing Muon's scalability, we provide rigorous theoretical analysis including: (i)showing the convergence rate under standard assumptions, (ii) spectral regularization properties that prevent gradient explosion, (iii) connection to natural gradient descent on the Stiefel manifold, and (iv) equivalence to steepest gradient descent under the spectral norm. Crucially, we demonstrate that Muon expands the Pareto frontier in the compute-time trade-off by maintaining superior data efficiency at large batch sizes, a key finding of~citeessentialai2025muon that we validate across our model scales. Empirically, Muon reaches the target loss with 48-52% of the training calculated by AdamW while maintaining or improving the final perplexity, consistent with larger-scale results. When combined with Multi-Head Latent Attention (MLA) and Mixture-of-Experts (MoE), we observe multiplicative efficiency gains: MLA+MoE+Muon achieves 68% memory reduction and 3.2× inference speedup, while improving perplexity by 8-12%. We provide detailed procedures on 15 architectural and optimizer components, stability analyzes across 100+ training runs, and practical implementation guidelines including Newton-Schulz coefficients (3.4445, -4.7750, 2.0315) optimized by~citesu2024muonblog. Our theoretical analysis and comprehensive experiments establish Muon as a principled, robust alternative to AdamW that particularly excels when combined with modern efficiency techniques and large-batch training regimes.
Key facts. Cited by 3 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026). Placed in Efficient MoE training and inference systems, one of 12 directions in Mixture-of-experts. Builds on 19 of its 23 references that are in the map. First posted on arXiv 29 Sep 2025.
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- 2026Spectral Flattening Is All Muon Needs: How Orthogonalization Controls Learning Rate and Convergencecited by 5
- 2026When and Why SignSGD Outperforms SGD: A Theoretical Study Based on ℓ1-norm Lower Boundscited by 2
- 2026Towards Understanding the Power and Limits of the Muon Optimizer: A River-Valley Perspectivecited by 2
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- 2026When and Why SignSGD Outperforms SGD: A Theoretical Study Based on ℓ1-norm Lower Bounds7 May 2026
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