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The Challenge of Teaching Reasoning to LLMs Without RL or Distillation

arXiv 2507.09850 ↗First posted 14 Jul 2025cs.AIcited by 3

On the map: LLM reasoning → Prompting and chain-of-thought reasoning

Abstract (arXiv)

Reasoning-capable language models achieve state-of-the-art performance in diverse complex tasks by generating long, explicit Chain-of-Thought (CoT) traces. While recent works show that base models can acquire such reasoning traces via reinforcement learning or distillation from stronger models like DeepSeek-R1, previous works demonstrate that even short CoT prompting without fine-tuning is able to improve reasoning. We ask whether long CoT can be induced in a base model using only prompting or minimal tuning. Using just 20 long CoT examples from the reasoning model textttQwQ-32B-Preview, we lightly fine-tune the base model textttQwen2.5-32B. The resulting model outperforms the much larger textttQwen2.5-Math-72B-Instruct, showing that a handful of high-quality examples can unlock strong reasoning capabilities. We further explore using CoT data from non-reasoning models and human annotators, enhanced with prompt engineering, multi-pass editing, and structural guidance. However, neither matches the performance of reasoning model traces, suggesting that certain latent qualities of expert CoT are difficult to replicate. We analyze key properties of reasoning data, such as problem difficulty, diversity, and answer length, that influence reasoning distillation. While challenges remain, we are optimistic that carefully curated human-written CoT, even in small quantities, can activate reasoning behaviors in base models. We release our human-authored dataset across refinement stages and invite further investigation into what makes small-scale reasoning supervision so effective.

Key facts. Cited by 3 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026). Placed in Prompting and chain-of-thought reasoning, one of 17 directions in LLM reasoning. Builds on 14 of its 24 references that are in the map. First posted on arXiv 14 Jul 2025.

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  1. 2025LLMs Can Easily Learn to Reason from Demonstrations Structure, not content, is what matters!11 Feb
  2. 2024Chain-of-Thought Reasoning Without Prompting15 Feb
  3. 2023Contrastive Chain-of-Thought Prompting15 Nov
  4. 2023Active Prompting with Chain-of-Thought for Large Language Models23 Feb
  5. 2022Automatic Chain of Thought Prompting in Large Language Models7 Oct

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  1. 2025DeepSeek-R1: Incentivizing Reasoning Capability in LLMs via Reinforcement Learningcited by 6,330
  2. 2024Qwen2.5 Technical Reportcited by 4,942
  3. 2025DAPO: An Open-Source LLM Reinforcement Learning System at Scalecited by 2,810
  4. 2025s1: Simple test-time scalingcited by 1,341
  5. 2025LIMO: Less is More for Reasoningcited by 498
  6. 2025AIMO-2 Winning Solution: Building State-of-the-Art Mathematical Reasoning Models with OpenMathReasoning datasetcited by 174
  7. 2025SRPO: A Cross-Domain Implementation of Large-Scale Reinforcement Learning on LLMcited by 68
  8. 20251.4 Million Open-Source Distilled Reasoning Dataset to Empower Large Language Model Trainingcited by 49
  9. 2024NeMo-Aligner: Scalable Toolkit for Efficient Model Alignmentcited by 41

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