Data movement limits to frontier model training
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Abstract (arXiv)
We present a theoretical model of distributed training, and use it to analyze how far dense and sparse training runs can be scaled. Under our baseline assumptions, given a three month training duration, data movement bottlenecks begin to significantly lower hardware utilization for training runs exceeding about 1028 FLOP, two orders of magnitude above the largest training run to date, suggesting the arrival of fundamental barriers to scaling in three years given recent rates of growth. A training run exceeding about 1031 FLOP is infeasible even at low utilization. However, more aggressive batch size scaling and/or shorter and fatter model shapes, if achievable, have the potential to permit much larger training runs.
Key facts. Cited by 3 papers in the map (data through 7 Oct 2026). Builds on 27 of its 41 references that are in the map. First posted on arXiv 2 Nov 2024.
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