# Towards Looped Models Done Right, Part II: Rethinking at Fixed Points

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.06833 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2610.06833/

## Key facts

- No citing papers in the map yet (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in Reinforcement learning for reasoning, one of 17 directions in LLM reasoning.
- Builds on 45 of its 72 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 5 Oct 2026.

## Placed in

- LLM reasoning / [Reinforcement learning for reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/lr/reinforcement-learning-for-reasoning/)
- Deep reinforcement learning methods / [RL training of language and agent models](https://mlsanity.com/deeprl/rl-training-of-language-and-agent-models/)

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## Abstract (arXiv)

Every recurrence of a looped language model adds cost in training, decoding, prefill, and reinforcement learning (RL). The closer recurrent states get to fixed points, the less the path to them matters. This enables truncated backpropagation in training; terminal key-value (KV) sharing for decoding with almost no loss in accuracy; a distilled student that prefills up to 1.79x faster; and RL updates that compute gradients from saved rollout states, 2x faster than backpropagating through the replayed trajectory. We therefore improve the two components of training that shape these fixed points: the depth prior and input injection. Fixed-depth training breaks KV sharing, and Huginn's broad depth prior supports sharing but dilutes supervision at the target depth more than sharing requires; we learn the prior from prediction feedback, with an entropy term that keeps it broad. Existing injection schemes let the state's component along the input amplify or cancel the injection; we remove this component with orthogonal injection. From 100M to 1.6B parameters, the learned prior and orthogonal injection lower perplexity at every scale relative to Huginn's prior and existing injection schemes, respectively. At 1.6B, the learned prior with a 3x smaller KV cache matches the downstream average of fixed-depth training with the full cache.
