# Underscoring the Problem: Why Softpick Fails at Initialization

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.05488 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2610.05488/

## Key facts

- No citing papers in the map yet (data through 14 Oct 2026).
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- First posted on arXiv 4 Oct 2026.

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## Abstract (arXiv)

Softmax attention gives every token a nonzero weight, which in trained models concentrates into attention sinks and massive activations that widen the dynamic range low-precision inference must cover. Softpick removes this constraint by rectifying scores, eliminating sinks and lowering hidden-state kurtosis, but its advantage fades at scale. We reframe this failure as a normalization problem. Softpick's denominator splits into positive- and negative-shifted sums D^+ and D^-, used identically in the forward and backward pass, preventing their roles from being isolated. We separate them into a family of operators that independently choose each denominator. The failure originates at initialization: every layer contains rows where D^+ is exactly zero, while near-dead rows produce gradient norms above 1012 regardless of the backward denominator. Only Softpick and a stop-gradient variant, which keeps D^+ + D^- forward but backpropagates through D^+ alone, train from scratch. At 230M parameters, the stop-gradient operator matches Softpick on quantization, has fewer dead heads, and retrieves passkeys more reliably, trailing only on peak attention-weight kurtosis.
