# Revisiting On-policy Adversarial Black-Box Distillation: Calibrating Groupwise Reward Geometry for Effective Advantage Construction

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2609.39757 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2609.39757/

## Key facts

- No citing papers in the map yet (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in On-policy and self-distillation for LLMs, one of 12 directions in Knowledge distillation.
- Builds on 68 of its 94 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 30 Sep 2026.

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- Knowledge distillation / [On-policy and self-distillation for LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/distill/on-policy-and-self-distillation-for-llms/)

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## Abstract (arXiv)

Black-box distillation is a practical route for transferring capabilities from API-accessible large language models that expose only text outputs into smaller student models. Recent on-policy adversarial methods such as GAD improve over SeqKD by forming an adversarial loop between a critic and a student, where the critic provides rewards for GRPO-based student policy optimization over the student's sampled responses. However, GRPO computes advantages from the within-group relative rewards of student samples for the same prompt, whereas the critic is trained primarily to distinguish teacher responses from student responses. This objective mismatch can produce reward groups with collapsed scale or fragile margins, leading to brittle grouped optimization signals. We propose Groupwise Reward Geometry Conditioning (GRGC), a two-stage framework that improves advantage construction by shaping student-side reward groups during both critic training and policy optimization. To improve critic-side conditioning, Gaussian groupwise Optimal Transport calibration regularizes the critic during training to produce reward groups with non-collapsed spread and smooth rank-wise gaps by matching sorted prompt-wise rewards to group-centered Gaussian quantiles. Building on this conditioned reward geometry, policy-side group power modulation reshapes the prompt-wise reward groups before they are converted into advantages, preserving the critic-induced ordering while increasing optimization-relevant margin separability. Extensive experiments across diverse teachers, student model families and scales, and training datasets demonstrate the effectiveness of GRGC on both in-distribution and out-of-distribution evaluations, while introducing negligible overhead over GAD. The code is available at https://github.com/2018cx/GRGC.
