# ID Balancing: Stable Training of Extremely Sparse MoE via PID-Based Load Control

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2609.39137 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2609.39137/

## Key facts

- No citing papers in the map yet (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in MoE large language models, one of 12 directions in Mixture-of-experts.
- Builds on 44 of its 60 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 30 Sep 2026.

## Placed in

- Mixture-of-experts / [MoE large language models](https://mlsanity.com/moe/moe-large-language-models/)

## Builds on (most cited first, 30 of 44)

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## Abstract (arXiv)

Scaling Large Language Models (LLMs) via Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) enables massive parameter growth with nearly constant per-token computation. However, further scaling the parameter count requires increasingly sparse routing, where expert load imbalance becomes more severe. This imbalance reduces parameter utilization and training efficiency, and can undermine training stability, becoming a bottleneck to reliable scaling. In this work, we unify two representative auxiliary-loss-free methods as incomplete Proportional-Integral-Derivative (PID) controllers: DeepSeek's loss-free method acts as a fixed-step integral controller, while Kimi K3's Quantile Balancing functions as a generalized proportional controller. Building on this control perspective, we propose ID Balancing, an Integral-Derivative controller. It scales its integral term with load error and activates its derivative term only when imbalance worsens, enabling stronger corrections for large or worsening errors and smaller updates near balance. Evaluated across Top-10, Top-5, and Top-3 routing over 768 experts, ID Balancing reduces worst-case backbone MaxVio and training-average backbone MinVio by over 50% and 12%, respectively, relative to the best baselines in the Top-3 setting. When the total parameter count increases from 18.9B to 69.9B (Top-10-of-768), ID Balancing's worst-case backbone MaxVio remains nearly unchanged and is approximately 89.6% lower than that of the auxiliary-loss baseline. ID Balancing also maintains competitive language-modeling and downstream performance. The advantages of ID Balancing grow as sparsity increases, making it a promising solution for scaling larger, sparser MoE models.
