# Diagnosing On-Policy Self-Distillation for Reasoning Language Models

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2609.39118 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2609.39118/

## Key facts

- No citing papers in the map yet (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in Prompting and chain-of-thought reasoning, one of 17 directions in LLM reasoning.
- Builds on 40 of its 41 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 30 Sep 2026.

## Placed in

- LLM reasoning / [Prompting and chain-of-thought reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/lr/prompting-and-chain-of-thought-reasoning/)
- Knowledge distillation / [On-policy and self-distillation for LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/distill/on-policy-and-self-distillation-for-llms/)

## Builds on (most cited first, 30 of 40)

- [Proximal Policy Optimization Algorithms](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1707.06347/) (2017)
- [LoRA: Low-Rank Adaptation of Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2106.09685/) (2021)
- [DeepSeekMath: Pushing the Limits of Mathematical Reasoning in Open Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2402.03300/) (2024)
- [Qwen3 Technical Report](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.09388/) (2025)
- [DeepSeek-R1: Incentivizing Reasoning Capability in LLMs via Reinforcement Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.12948/) (2025)
- [Efficient Memory Management for Large Language Model Serving with PagedAttention](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2309.06180/) (2023)
- [DAPO: An Open-Source LLM Reinforcement Learning System at Scale](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.14476/) (2025)
- [Decoupled Weight Decay Regularization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1711.05101/) (2017)
- [Understanding R1-Zero-Like Training: A Critical Perspective](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.20783/) (2025)
- [ZeRO: Memory Optimizations Toward Training Trillion Parameter Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1910.02054/) (2019)
- [SGLang: Efficient Execution of Structured Language Model Programs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2312.07104/) (2023)
- [Does Reinforcement Learning Really Incentivize Reasoning Capacity in LLMs Beyond the Base Model?](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.13837/) (2025)
- [On-Policy Distillation of Language Models: Learning from Self-Generated Mistakes](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2306.13649/) (2023)
- [Group Sequence Policy Optimization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2507.18071/) (2025)
- [DeepSeek-V3 Technical Report](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2412.19437/) (2024)
- [Self-Distilled Reasoner: On-Policy Self-Distillation for Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2601.18734/) (2026)
- [Rethinking On-Policy Distillation of Large Language Models: Phenomenology, Mechanism, and Recipe](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2604.13016/) (2026)
- [AIMO-2 Winning Solution: Building State-of-the-Art Mathematical Reasoning Models with OpenMathReasoning dataset](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.16891/) (2025)
- [A Survey of On-Policy Distillation for Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2604.00626/) (2026)
- [Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2607.24653/) (2026)
- [Self-Distilled RLVR](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2604.03128/) (2026)
- [Olmo 3](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2512.13961/) (2025)
- [MiMo: Unlocking the Reasoning Potential of Language Model -- From Pretraining to Posttraining](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.07608/) (2025)
- [Why Does Self-Distillation (Sometimes) Degrade the Reasoning Capability of LLMs?](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2603.24472/) (2026)
- [Unifying Group-Relative and Self-Distillation Policy Optimization via Sample Routing](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2604.02288/) (2026)
- [Fast and Effective On-policy Distillation from Reasoning Prefixes](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2602.15260/) (2026)
- [The Many Faces of On-Policy Distillation: Pitfalls, Mechanisms, and Fixes](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2605.11182/) (2026)
- [RLCSD: Reinforcement Learning with Contrastive On-Policy Self-Distillation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2606.11709/) (2026)
- [Rethinking On-Policy Self-Distillation for Thinking Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2607.05184/) (2026)
- [Purified OPSD: On-Policy Self-Distillation Without Losing How to Think](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2607.02234/) (2026)

## Abstract (arXiv)

On-policy self-distillation (OPSD) has attracted growing interest as a promising approach to improve the reasoning ability of language models. Without external rewards nor a separate stronger teacher, the self-teacher with privileged information could provide dense signals on student's trajectories. However, its behavior in language reasoning remains unclear, with reported outcomes ranging from modest gains to behavioral collapse. In this work, we diagnose OPSD for mathematical reasoning across models spanning 0.6B--8B parameters. We conduct controlled experiments and token-level analyses to fully delve into OPSD. We point out that teacher's signal is shaped by reasoning-mode alignment and the complete teacher prefix, rather than by privileged semantics alone. OPSD improves reasoning only in narrow compatibility regimes. Otherwise, it produces ineffective length growth, stable degradation, or behavioral collapse. Token-level analysis shows that teacher's signal is not stable and does not predict downstream performance. Based on these results, we argue that OPSD is a sensitive algorithm rather than a generally reliable reasoning-improvement post-training method.