# It's Not RoPE that Creates Sinks: The Role of Self-Concentration and Value-Non-Mixing in Attention

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2609.09085 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2609.09085/

## Key facts

- No citing papers in the map yet (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Builds on 15 of its 25 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 8 Sep 2026.

## Builds on (most cited first, 15 of 15)

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## Abstract (arXiv)

Large Language Models (LLMs) often exhibit "Attention Sink" (AS) and the accompanying "Massive Activations" (MAs) at the initial position of a sequence. These phenomena frequently co-occur, and MAs can pose challenges for low-bit quantization. In this study, we analyze the factors underlying AS and MAs that emerge at the initial position regardless of the token occupying it. Our experiments suggest that self-concentration of attention, resulting from the causal mask, and the subsequent Value-non-mixing in attention outputs contribute to AS and MAs. These findings provide new empirical evidence on the internal dynamics of LLMs, offering insights that may inform future quantization strategies and advance our understanding of the internal mechanisms of attention layers.