# Where Should Optimizer State Live? Tiered State Allocation for Memory-Efficient Mixture-of-Experts Training

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2607.19058 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2607.19058/

## Key facts

- No citing papers in the map yet (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in Efficient MoE training and inference systems, one of 12 directions in Mixture-of-experts.
- Builds on 23 of its 30 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 21 Jul 2026.

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- Mixture-of-experts / [Efficient MoE training and inference systems](https://mlsanity.com/moe/efficient-moe-training-and-inference-systems/)

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## Abstract (arXiv)

Optimizer state is the largest single line item in the memory budget of mixture-of-experts (MoE) training. On a 6.78B-parameter MoE language model AdamW keeps 50.6 GB of first and second moments to update 12.6 GB of bfloat16 weights. We study SkewAdam, an optimizer built on the observation that the three parameter populations of an MoE differ enough in size and gradient statistics that they should not receive the same state. Those populations are the dense backbone, the experts and the router. SkewAdam keeps float32 momentum plus a factored second moment for the backbone (5% of parameters), a factored second moment alone for the experts (95%) and an exact second moment for the router (<0.01%). The resulting state occupies 1.29 GB or 2.6% of AdamW's and peak training memory falls from 81.4 GB to 31.3 GB, within the budget of a 40 GB accelerator. In a controlled comparison from identical initializations over 82M tokens, SkewAdam reaches validation perplexity 108.4, ahead of AdamW (126.8), Muon (120.2) and Lion (393.7), and settles router load balance to within 1% of its uniform floor. The allocation is not what earns that perplexity. A tier ablation reaches the same value while carrying twenty times the state, so the tiers buy memory rather than accuracy. Same-platform runs separate what does earn it. Removing momentum costs 31 perplexity points (tuned Adafactor, 139.7) and replacing the factored second moment and its update clipping with a full second moment costs 10 (tuned AdamW, 118.5), so neither tuned baseline reaches the untuned tiered policy. Where optimizer state lives, these results suggest, matters at least as much as how much of it there is.