# Denser neq Better: Limits of On-Policy Self-Distillation for Continual Post-Training

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2607.01763 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2607.01763/

## Key facts

- Cited by 7 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in On-policy and self-distillation for LLMs, one of 12 directions in Knowledge distillation.
- Builds on 33 of its 44 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 2 Jul 2026.

## Placed in

- Knowledge distillation / [On-policy and self-distillation for LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/distill/on-policy-and-self-distillation-for-llms/)

## Builds on (most cited first, 30 of 33)

- [Training language models to follow instructions with human feedback](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2203.02155/) (2022)
- [Chain-of-Thought Prompting Elicits Reasoning in Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2201.11903/) (2022)
- [DeepSeekMath: Pushing the Limits of Mathematical Reasoning in Open Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2402.03300/) (2024)
- [Direct Preference Optimization: Your Language Model is Secretly a Reward Model](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2305.18290/) (2023)
- [Overcoming catastrophic forgetting in neural networks](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1612.00796/) (2016)
- [Large Language Models are Zero-Shot Reasoners](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2205.11916/) (2022)
- [Let's Verify Step by Step](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2305.20050/) (2023)
- [Constitutional AI: Harmlessness from AI Feedback](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2212.08073/) (2022)
- [GPQA: A Graduate-Level Google-Proof Q&A Benchmark](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2311.12022/) (2023)
- [DAPO: An Open-Source LLM Reinforcement Learning System at Scale](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.14476/) (2025)
- [Learning to summarize from human feedback](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2009.01325/) (2020)
- [Fine-Tuning Language Models from Human Preferences](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1909.08593/) (2019)
- [LiveCodeBench: Holistic and Contamination Free Evaluation of Large Language Models for Code](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2403.07974/) (2024)
- [Qwen3 Embedding: Advancing Text Embedding and Reranking Through Foundation Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2506.05176/) (2025)
- [Language Models Don't Always Say What They Think: Unfaithful Explanations in Chain-of-Thought Prompting](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2305.04388/) (2023)
- [Tulu 3: Pushing Frontiers in Open Language Model Post-Training](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2411.15124/) (2024)
- [On-Policy Distillation of Language Models: Learning from Self-Generated Mistakes](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2306.13649/) (2023)
- [Solving math word problems with process- and outcome-based feedback](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2211.14275/) (2022)
- [Self-Distilled Reasoner: On-Policy Self-Distillation for Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2601.18734/) (2026)
- [Reinforcement Learning via Self-Distillation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2601.20802/) (2026)
- [Rethinking On-Policy Distillation of Large Language Models: Phenomenology, Mechanism, and Recipe](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2604.13016/) (2026)
- [Self-Distillation Enables Continual Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2601.19897/) (2026)
- [ZebraLogic: On the Scaling Limits of LLMs for Logical Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.01100/) (2025)
- [On-Policy Context Distillation for Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2602.12275/) (2026)
- [RL's Razor: Why Online Reinforcement Learning Forgets Less](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2509.04259/) (2025)
- [Learning by Distilling Context](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2209.15189/) (2022)
- [Why Does Self-Distillation (Sometimes) Degrade the Reasoning Capability of LLMs?](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2603.24472/) (2026)
- [Retaining by Doing: The Role of On-Policy Data in Mitigating Forgetting](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2510.18874/) (2025)
- [Theory on Forgetting and Generalization of Continual Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2302.05836/) (2023)
- [The Path Not Taken: RLVR Provably Learns Off the Principals](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2511.08567/) (2025)

## Built on by (most cited first, 7 of 7)

- [Negative Self-Distillation: Learning to Reason by Avoiding Flaws](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2609.11699/) (2026)
- [Continual Learning in Transition](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2608.06216/) (2026)
- [One Symptom, Three Levers: A Critical Review of On-Policy Self-Distillation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2608.25936/) (2026)
- [iSDFT: Information-Proximal Self-Distillation for Continual Learning in LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2609.24646/) (2026)
- [Reasoning-Preserving Fine-Tuning of Post-RL LLMs with Null-Basis LoRA](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2609.25618/) (2026)
- [ReTeach: Building a Self-Teacher through Multi-Round Reflection and Retry](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2610.11529/) (2026)
- [Does self-distillation improve reasoning?](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2610.18613/) (2026)

## Abstract (arXiv)

Continual post-training enables foundation models to acquire new knowledge while preserving existing capabilities. Recent work suggests that on-policy learning can mitigate forgetting, with self-distillation as a particularly attractive approach. We revisit this optimistic claim through self-distillation policy optimization (SDPO). Our experiments show that SDPO accelerates in-domain specialization when teacher signals are stable and well aligned, but struggles to generalize out of distribution. In continual post-training, SDPO exhibits greater forgetting and can even collapse, whereas GRPO, the more established on-policy reinforcement learning method, adapts more conservatively and better preserves prior capabilities. Further analyses link these failures to increased drift in parameter and response space, and to amplification of high-frequency artifacts through a self-reinforcing teacher-student loop. Thus, on-policy data alone is insufficient for continual learning. Self-distillation is effective when teacher targets are stable and token-level supervision is reliable, but should not be treated as a default stabilizer for continual post-training. Our code is available at https://github.com/Moenupa/SDPO-CL.