# Measuring Maximum Activations in Open Large Language Models

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.15572 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2605.15572/

## Key facts

- No citing papers in the map yet (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in MoE large language models, one of 12 directions in Mixture-of-experts.
- Builds on 23 of its 26 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 15 May 2026.

## Placed in

- Mixture-of-experts / [MoE large language models](https://mlsanity.com/moe/moe-large-language-models/)

## Builds on (most cited first, 23 of 23)

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- [Massive Activations in Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2402.17762/) (2024)
- [When Attention Sink Emerges in Language Models: An Empirical View](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2410.10781/) (2024)
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## Abstract (arXiv)

The dynamic range of activations is a first-order constraint for low-bit quantization, activation scaling, and stable LLM inference. Prior work characterized outlier features and massive activations on pre-2024 LLaMA-style models, and the downstream activation-quantization stack inherits that picture without revisiting it for the post-LLaMA open-model boom. We ask the deployment-oriented question: how large can activations get in modern open LLMs, and how does this magnitude vary across families, generations, and training stages? Under a unified pipeline (5,000-sample multi-domain corpus, family-specific tokenization, identical hooks across embeddings, hidden states, attention, MLP/MoE, SwiGLU gates, and final norm), we measure global and layerwise maxima on 27 checkpoints from 8 open families spanning dense, MoE, vision-language, intermediate-training, and instruction-tuned variants. We find that (i) global maxima span over nearly four orders of magnitude at comparable parameter counts, with Qwen3.5 and MoE checkpoints in the 10^2 to 10^3 range and Gemma3-27B-it reaching ~7 x 10^5; (ii) cross-family and cross-generation comparisons break simple monotonic scaling; and (iii) MoE checkpoints exhibit 14.0-23.4x lower peaks than matched-scale dense counterparts, while the residual stream carries the global maximum in 22/24 checkpoints. A lightweight INT-8 sanity check shows that measured maxima co-vary with low-bit reconstruction error via activation-scale selection. We conclude that maximum activation magnitude is a model property tied to family, architecture, and training stage - not a simple byproduct of size - and should be measured and reported alongside any open-weight release before low-bit deployment. The code is publicly available at https://github.com/clx1415926/Max_act_llm.