# Missing Old Logits in Asynchronous Agentic RL: Semantic Mismatch and Repair Methods for Off-Policy Correction

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.12070 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2605.12070/

## Key facts

- Cited by 5 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in Reinforcement learning for LLM agents, one of 16 directions in LLM agents and tool use.
- Builds on 31 of its 40 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 12 May 2026.

## Placed in

- LLM agents and tool use / [Reinforcement learning for LLM agents](https://mlsanity.com/agents/reinforcement-learning-for-llm-agents/)

## Builds on (most cited first, 30 of 31)

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- [Efficient Memory Management for Large Language Model Serving with PagedAttention](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2309.06180/) (2023)
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- [SGLang: Efficient Execution of Structured Language Model Programs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2312.07104/) (2023)
- [Group Sequence Policy Optimization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2507.18071/) (2025)
- [τ2-Bench: Evaluating Conversational Agents in a Dual-Control Environment](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2506.07982/) (2025)
- [GLM-5: from Vibe Coding to Agentic Engineering](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2602.15763/) (2026)
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- [MiniMax-M1: Scaling Test-Time Compute Efficiently with Lightning Attention](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2506.13585/) (2025)
- [AReaL: A Large-Scale Asynchronous Reinforcement Learning System for Language Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.24298/) (2025)
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- [MiMo-V2-Flash Technical Report](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2601.02780/) (2026)
- [Agentic Reinforced Policy Optimization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2507.19849/) (2025)
- [Reinforcement Learning Optimization for Large-Scale Learning: An Efficient and User-Friendly Scaling Library](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2506.06122/) (2025)
- [Stabilizing MoE Reinforcement Learning by Aligning Training and Inference Routers](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2510.11370/) (2025)
- [Tapered Off-Policy REINFORCE: Stable and efficient reinforcement learning for LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.14286/) (2025)
- [Every Step Evolves: Scaling Reinforcement Learning for Trillion-Scale Thinking Model](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2510.18855/) (2025)
- [VitaBench: Benchmarking LLM Agents with Versatile Interactive Tasks in Real-world Applications](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2509.26490/) (2025)
- [Prosperity before Collapse: How Far Can Off-Policy RL Reach with Stale Data on LLMs?](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2510.01161/) (2025)
- [Stabilizing Reinforcement Learning with LLMs: Formulation and Practices](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2512.01374/) (2025)
- [Klear-Reasoner: Advancing Reasoning Capability via Gradient-Preserving Clipping Policy Optimization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2508.07629/) (2025)
- [Laminar: A Scalable Asynchronous RL Post-Training Framework](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2510.12633/) (2025)
- [Rethinking the Trust Region in LLM Reinforcement Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2602.04879/) (2026)
- [Batch size-invariance for policy optimization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2110.00641/) (2021)
- [Let It Flow: Agentic Crafting on Rock and Roll, Building the ROME Model within an Open Agentic Learning Ecosystem](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2512.24873/) (2025)
- [A-3PO: Accelerating Asynchronous LLM Training with Staleness-aware Proximal Policy Approximation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2512.06547/) (2025)
- [ERNIE 5.0 Technical Report](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2602.04705/) (2026)
- [VESPO: Variational Sequence-Level Soft Policy Optimization for Stable Off-Policy LLM Training](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2602.10693/) (2026)

## Built on by (most cited first, 5 of 5)

- [SPO++: Stream-Aligned Policy Optimization for Asynchronous Agentic RL](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2608.24870/) (2026)
- [From Trajectories to Prefixes: Reusing Teacher Trajectories via Replayed Prefixes and Online Continuation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2607.19395/) (2026)
- [Deconstructing Off-Policy Ratios: Entropy-Normalized Trust Regions for Asynchronous Reinforcement Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2607.22186/) (2026)
- [BRACE: Anchored Bellman-Residual Correction for Stale Critics in Asynchronous RL](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2609.09783/) (2026)
- [COPC: Coupled Off-Policy Correction for Asynchronous LLM Reinforcement Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2610.09597/) (2026)

## Abstract (arXiv)

Asynchronous reinforcement learning improves rollout throughput for large language model agents by decoupling sample generation from policy optimization, but it also introduces a critical failure mode for PPO-style off-policy correction. In heterogeneous training systems, the total importance ratio should ideally be decomposed into two semantically distinct factors: a training--inference discrepancy term that aligns inference-side and training-side distributions at the same behavior-policy version, and a policy-staleness term that constrains the update from the historical policy to the current policy. We show that practical asynchronous pipelines with delayed updates and partial rollouts often lose the required historical training-side logits, or old logits. This missing-old-logit problem entangles discrepancy repair with staleness correction, breaks the intended semantics of decoupled correction, and makes clipping and masking thresholds interact undesirably. To address this issue, we study both exact and approximate correction routes. We propose three exact old-logit acquisition strategies: snapshot-based version tracking, a dedicated old-logit model, and synchronization via partial rollout interruption, and compare their system trade-offs. From the perspective of approximate correction, we focus on preserving the benefits of decoupled correction through a more appropriate approximate policy when exact old logits cannot be recovered at low cost, without incurring extra system overhead. Following this analysis, we adopt a revised PPO-EWMA method, which achieves significant gains in both training speed and optimization performance.
