# Dr. Seg: Revisiting GRPO Training for Visual Large Language Models through Perception-Oriented Design

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.00152 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2603.00152/

## Key facts

- Cited by 3 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in Multimodal reasoning, one of 17 directions in LLM reasoning.
- Builds on 26 of its 50 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 25 Feb 2026.

## Placed in

- LLM reasoning / [Multimodal reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/lr/multimodal-reasoning/)

## Builds on (most cited first, 26 of 26)

- [Proximal Policy Optimization Algorithms](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1707.06347/) (2017)
- [DeepSeekMath: Pushing the Limits of Mathematical Reasoning in Open Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2402.03300/) (2024)
- [DeepSeek-R1: Incentivizing Reasoning Capability in LLMs via Reinforcement Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.12948/) (2025)
- [Qwen2.5-VL Technical Report](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.13923/) (2025)
- [GPT-4o System Card](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2410.21276/) (2024)
- [Qwen2-VL: Enhancing Vision-Language Model's Perception of the World at Any Resolution](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2409.12191/) (2024)
- [SAM 2: Segment Anything in Images and Videos](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2408.00714/) (2024)
- [HybridFlow: A Flexible and Efficient RLHF Framework](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2409.19256/) (2024)
- [Shikra: Unleashing Multimodal LLM's Referential Dialogue Magic](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2306.15195/) (2023)
- [SFT Memorizes, RL Generalizes: A Comparative Study of Foundation Model Post-training](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.17161/) (2025)
- [Beyond the 80/20 Rule: High-Entropy Minority Tokens Drive Effective Reinforcement Learning for LLM Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2506.01939/) (2025)
- [VLM-R1: A Stable and Generalizable R1-style Large Vision-Language Model](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.07615/) (2025)
- [The Entropy Mechanism of Reinforcement Learning for Reasoning Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.22617/) (2025)
- [Seg-Zero: Reasoning-Chain Guided Segmentation via Cognitive Reinforcement](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.06520/) (2025)
- [ProRL: Prolonged Reinforcement Learning Expands Reasoning Boundaries in Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.24864/) (2025)
- [Perception-R1: Pioneering Perception Policy with Reinforcement Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.07954/) (2025)
- [GroundingGPT:Language Enhanced Multi-modal Grounding Model](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2401.06071/) (2024)
- [Ferret-v2: An Improved Baseline for Referring and Grounding with Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2404.07973/) (2024)
- [The Invisible Leash: Why RLVR May or May Not Escape Its Origin](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2507.14843/) (2025)
- [LISA++: An Improved Baseline for Reasoning Segmentation with Large Language Model](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2312.17240/) (2023)
- [Look-Back: Implicit Visual Re-focusing in MLLM Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2507.03019/) (2025)
- [VisionReasoner: Unified Reasoning-Integrated Visual Perception via Reinforcement Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.12081/) (2025)
- [PixelThink: Towards Efficient Chain-of-Pixel Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.23727/) (2025)
- [CrowdVLM-R1: Expanding R1 Ability to Vision Language Model for Crowd Counting using Fuzzy Group Relative Policy Reward](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.03724/) (2025)
- [VidBridge-R1: Bridging QA and Captioning for RL-based Video Understanding Models with Intermediate Proxy Tasks](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2506.09079/) (2025)
- [COCONut-PanCap: Joint Panoptic Segmentation and Grounded Captions for Fine-Grained Understanding and Generation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.02589/) (2025)

## Built on by (most cited first, 3 of 3)

- [CR-Seg: Attention-Guided and CoT-Enhanced Coarse-to-Refined Reasoning Segmentation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2606.03564/) (2026)
- [FIRM: Fine-Grained Intra-Token Representation of Masks for Remote Sensing Reasoning Segmentation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2608.13980/) (2026)
- [DRAgent: Discriminative Reasoning Agent for Referring Expression Segmentation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2608.22885/) (2026)

## Abstract (arXiv)

Following the success of Group Relative Policy Optimization (GRPO) in foundation LLMs, an increasing number of works have sought to adapt GRPO to Visual Large Language Models (VLLMs) for visual perception tasks (e.g., detection and segmentation). However, much of this line of research rests on a long-standing yet unexamined assumption: training paradigms developed for language reasoning can be transferred seamlessly to visual perception. Our experiments show that this assumption is not valid, revealing intrinsic differences between reasoning-oriented and perception-oriented settings. Using reasoning segmentation as a representative case, we surface two overlooked factors: (i) the need for a broader output space, and (ii) the importance of fine-grained, stable rewards. Building on these observations, we propose Dr.~Seg, a simple, plug-and-play GRPO-based framework consisting of a Look-to-Confirm mechanism and a Distribution-Ranked Reward module, requiring no architectural modifications and integrating seamlessly with existing GRPO-based VLLMs. Extensive experiments demonstrate that Dr.~Seg improves performance in complex visual scenarios while maintaining strong generalization. Code, models, and datasets are available at https://github.com/eVI-group-SCU/Dr-Seg.