# Concise Reasoning in the Lens of Lagrangian Optimization

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.10168 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2510.10168/

## Key facts

- Cited by 3 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in Test-time compute and efficient thinking, one of 17 directions in LLM reasoning.
- Builds on 38 of its 45 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 11 Oct 2025.

## Placed in

- LLM reasoning / [Test-time compute and efficient thinking](https://mlsanity.com/lr/test-time-compute-and-efficient-thinking/)

## Builds on (most cited first, 30 of 38)

- [Proximal Policy Optimization Algorithms](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1707.06347/) (2017)
- [DeepSeekMath: Pushing the Limits of Mathematical Reasoning in Open Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2402.03300/) (2024)
- [Measuring Mathematical Problem Solving With the MATH Dataset](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2103.03874/) (2021)
- [DAPO: An Open-Source LLM Reinforcement Learning System at Scale](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.14476/) (2025)
- [HybridFlow: A Flexible and Efficient RLHF Framework](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2409.19256/) (2024)
- [s1: Simple test-time scaling](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.19393/) (2025)
- [Kimi k1.5: Scaling Reinforcement Learning with LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.12599/) (2025)
- [OlympiadBench: A Challenging Benchmark for Promoting AGI with Olympiad-Level Bilingual Multimodal Scientific Problems](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2402.14008/) (2024)
- [Tulu 3: Pushing Frontiers in Open Language Model Post-Training](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2411.15124/) (2024)
- [Training Large Language Models to Reason in a Continuous Latent Space](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2412.06769/) (2024)
- [Do NOT Think That Much for 2+3=? On the Overthinking of o1-Like LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2412.21187/) (2024)
- [L1: Controlling How Long A Reasoning Model Thinks With Reinforcement Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.04697/) (2025)
- [Demystifying Long Chain-of-Thought Reasoning in LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.03373/) (2025)
- [Chain of Draft: Thinking Faster by Writing Less](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.18600/) (2025)
- [O1-Pruner: Length-Harmonizing Fine-Tuning for O1-Like Reasoning Pruning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.12570/) (2025)
- [TokenSkip: Controllable Chain-of-Thought Compression in LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.12067/) (2025)
- [Token-Budget-Aware LLM Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2412.18547/) (2024)
- [Training Language Models to Reason Efficiently](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.04463/) (2025)
- [ThinkPrune: Pruning Long Chain-of-Thought of LLMs via Reinforcement Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.01296/) (2025)
- [CoT-Valve: Length-Compressible Chain-of-Thought Tuning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.09601/) (2025)
- [DAST: Difficulty-Adaptive Slow-Thinking for Large Reasoning Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.04472/) (2025)
- [Self-Training Elicits Concise Reasoning in Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.20122/) (2025)
- [Token Assorted: Mixing Latent and Text Tokens for Improved Language Model Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.03275/) (2025)
- [Concise Reasoning via Reinforcement Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.05185/) (2025)
- [Revisiting Reinforcement Learning for LLM Reasoning from A Cross-Domain Perspective](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2506.14965/) (2025)
- [Sample More to Think Less: Group Filtered Policy Optimization for Concise Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2508.09726/) (2025)
- [ShorterBetter: Guiding Reasoning Models to Find Optimal Inference Length for Efficient Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.21370/) (2025)
- [Learning When to Think: Shaping Adaptive Reasoning in R1-Style Models via Multi-Stage RL](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.10832/) (2025)
- [Just Enough Thinking: Efficient Reasoning with Adaptive Length Penalties Reinforcement Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2506.05256/) (2025)
- [SelfBudgeter: Adaptive Token Allocation for Efficient LLM Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.11274/) (2025)

## Built on by (most cited first, 3 of 3)

- [ConPress: Learning Efficient Reasoning from Multi-Question Contextual Pressure](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2602.01472/) (2026)
- [Joint Continual Learning of Local Language Models and Cloud Offloading Decisions with Budget Constraints](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2602.00166/) (2026)
- [When Less is Enough: Efficient Inference via Collaborative Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2605.01111/) (2026)

## Abstract (arXiv)

Concise reasoning in large language models seeks to generate only essential intermediate steps needed to arrive at a final answer, thereby alleviating issues of overthinking. Most proposed approaches hinge on carefully hand-crafted heuristics, struggling to balance concision with performance, often failing to adapt across domains and model scales. In this work, we address these challenges by introducing a principled and pragmatic strategy, performance-aware length updating (PALU). As a principled algorithm, PALU formulates concise reasoning as a constrained optimization problem, minimizing response length subject to a performance constraint, and then applies Lagrangian optimization to convert it into a tractable unconstrained problem. As a pragmatic solution, PALU streamlines complicated update rules through three approximations: (i) estimating performance with off-policy rollouts, (ii) truncating the Lagrange multiplier to two extremes, and (iii) replacing gradient-based updates with quantile-driven length adjustments. PALU reduces output length by 65% while improving accuracy by 15% when applied to DeepSeek-Distill-Qwen-1.5B, averaged over five benchmarks, outperforming a range of alternative methods. Furthermore, PALU is demonstrated to adapt across both domain (logic, STEM and math) and model scale (1.5B, 7B, 14B) entrenching the algorithm as a practical and effective concise reasoning approach.