# Trajectory Bellman Residual Minimization: A Simple Value-Based Method for LLM Reasoning

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.15311 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.15311/

## Key facts

- Cited by 11 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in Reinforcement learning for reasoning, one of 17 directions in LLM reasoning.
- Builds on 34 of its 71 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 21 May 2025.

## Placed in

- LLM reasoning / [Reinforcement learning for reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/lr/reinforcement-learning-for-reasoning/)

## Builds on (most cited first, 30 of 34)

- [Proximal Policy Optimization Algorithms](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1707.06347/) (2017)
- [DeepSeekMath: Pushing the Limits of Mathematical Reasoning in Open Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2402.03300/) (2024)
- [DeepSeek-R1: Incentivizing Reasoning Capability in LLMs via Reinforcement Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.12948/) (2025)
- [Measuring Mathematical Problem Solving With the MATH Dataset](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2103.03874/) (2021)
- [Training a Helpful and Harmless Assistant with Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2204.05862/) (2022)
- [DAPO: An Open-Source LLM Reinforcement Learning System at Scale](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.14476/) (2025)
- [HybridFlow: A Flexible and Efficient RLHF Framework](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2409.19256/) (2024)
- [High-Dimensional Continuous Control Using Generalized Advantage Estimation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1506.02438/) (2015)
- [Understanding R1-Zero-Like Training: A Critical Perspective](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.20783/) (2025)
- [OpenAI o1 System Card](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2412.16720/) (2024)
- [Kimi k1.5: Scaling Reinforcement Learning with LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.12599/) (2025)
- [OlympiadBench: A Challenging Benchmark for Promoting AGI with Olympiad-Level Bilingual Multimodal Scientific Problems](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2402.14008/) (2024)
- [SimpleRL-Zoo: Investigating and Taming Zero Reinforcement Learning for Open Base Models in the Wild](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.18892/) (2025)
- [Open-Reasoner-Zero: An Open Source Approach to Scaling Up Reinforcement Learning on the Base Model](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.24290/) (2025)
- [SLiC-HF: Sequence Likelihood Calibration with Human Feedback](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2305.10425/) (2023)
- [VAPO: Efficient and Reliable Reinforcement Learning for Advanced Reasoning Tasks](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.05118/) (2025)
- [KTO: Model Alignment as Prospect Theoretic Optimization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2402.01306/) (2024)
- [Logic-RL: Unleashing LLM Reasoning with Rule-Based Reinforcement Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.14768/) (2025)
- [From r to Q^*: Your Language Model is Secretly a Q-Function](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2404.12358/) (2024)
- [REINFORCE++: Stabilizing Critic-Free Policy Optimization with Global Advantage Normalization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.03262/) (2025)
- [ReMax: A Simple, Effective, and Efficient Reinforcement Learning Method for Aligning Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2310.10505/) (2023)
- [A unified view of entropy-regularized Markov decision processes](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1705.07798/) (2017)
- [Light-R1: Curriculum SFT, DPO and RL for Long COT from Scratch and Beyond](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.10460/) (2025)
- [Equivalence Between Policy Gradients and Soft Q-Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1704.06440/) (2017)
- [Generalized Preference Optimization: A Unified Approach to Offline Alignment](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2402.05749/) (2024)
- [A Minimalist Approach to LLM Reasoning: from Rejection Sampling to Reinforce](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.11343/) (2025)
- [Back to Basics: Revisiting REINFORCE Style Optimization for Learning from Human Feedback in LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2402.14740/) (2024)
- [What's Behind PPO's Collapse in Long-CoT? Value Optimization Holds the Secret](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.01491/) (2025)
- [CPPO: Accelerating the Training of Group Relative Policy Optimization-Based Reasoning Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.22342/) (2025)
- [Offline Reinforcement Learning for LLM Multi-Step Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2412.16145/) (2024)

## Built on by (most cited first, 11 of 11)

- [NFT: Bridging Supervised Learning and Reinforcement Learning in Math Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.18116/) (2025)
- [Beyond Uniform Credit Assignment: Selective Eligibility Traces for RLVR](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2605.05965/) (2026)
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- [Modularized Reinforcement Learning on LLMs: From MDP Creation to Exploration and Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2606.21943/) (2026)
- [Breaking the Capability Ceiling of LLM Post-Training by Reintroducing Markov States](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2603.19987/) (2026)
- [Provably avoiding over-optimization in Direct Preference Optimization without knowing the data distribution](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2602.06239/) (2026)
- [Off-Policy Value-Based Reinforcement Learning for Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2603.23355/) (2026)
- [When Does Trajectory-Level Supervision Permit Efficient Offline Reinforcement Learning?](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2606.18531/) (2026)
- [Deconstructing Off-Policy Ratios: Entropy-Normalized Trust Regions for Asynchronous Reinforcement Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2607.22186/) (2026)
- [BRACE: Anchored Bellman-Residual Correction for Stale Critics in Asynchronous RL](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2609.09783/) (2026)

## Abstract (arXiv)

Policy-based methods currently dominate reinforcement learning (RL) pipelines for large language model (LLM) reasoning, leaving value-based approaches largely unexplored. We revisit the classical paradigm of Bellman Residual Minimization and introduce Trajectory Bellman Residual Minimization (TBRM), an algorithm that naturally adapts this idea to LLMs, yielding a simple yet effective off-policy algorithm that optimizes a single trajectory-level Bellman objective using the model's own logits as Q-values. TBRM removes the need for critics, importance-sampling ratios, or clipping, and operates with only one rollout per prompt. We prove convergence to the near-optimal KL-regularized policy from arbitrary off-policy data via an improved change-of-trajectory-measure analysis. Experiments on standard mathematical-reasoning benchmarks show that TBRM consistently outperforms policy-based baselines, like PPO and GRPO, with comparable or lower computational and memory overhead. Our results indicate that value-based RL might be a principled and efficient alternative for enhancing reasoning capabilities in LLMs.