# Unfettered Forceful Skill Acquisition with Physical Reasoning and Coordinate Frame Labeling

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.09731 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.09731/

## Key facts

- Cited by 1 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in Spatial and embodied reasoning, one of 17 directions in LLM reasoning.
- Builds on 35 of its 55 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 14 May 2025.

## Placed in

- LLM reasoning / [Spatial and embodied reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/lr/spatial-and-embodied-reasoning/)
- Multimodal LLMs / vision-language models / [Embodied and 3D vision-language models](https://mlsanity.com/mllm/embodied-and-3d-vision-language-models/)

## Builds on (most cited first, 30 of 35)

- [Gemini 1.5: Unlocking multimodal understanding across millions of tokens of context](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2403.05530/) (2024)
- [OpenVLA: An Open-Source Vision-Language-Action Model](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2406.09246/) (2024)
- [Do As I Can, Not As I Say: Grounding Language in Robotic Affordances](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2204.01691/) (2022)
- [RT-1: Robotics Transformer for Real-World Control at Scale](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2212.06817/) (2022)
- [π0.5: a Vision-Language-Action Model with Open-World Generalization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.16054/) (2025)
- [Learning Fine-Grained Bimanual Manipulation with Low-Cost Hardware](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2304.13705/) (2023)
- [Open X-Embodiment: Robotic Learning Datasets and RT-X Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2310.08864/) (2023)
- [TinyVLA: Towards Fast, Data-Efficient Vision-Language-Action Models for Robotic Manipulation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2409.12514/) (2024)
- [ReKep: Spatio-Temporal Reasoning of Relational Keypoint Constraints for Robotic Manipulation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2409.01652/) (2024)
- [RoboPoint: A Vision-Language Model for Spatial Affordance Prediction for Robotics](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2406.10721/) (2024)
- [DexVLA: Vision-Language Model with Plug-In Diffusion Expert for General Robot Control](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.05855/) (2025)
- [DexGraspVLA: A Vision-Language-Action Framework Towards General Dexterous Grasping](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.20900/) (2025)
- [Exploring the Adversarial Vulnerabilities of Vision-Language-Action Models in Robotics](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2411.13587/) (2024)
- [Rethinking Model Evaluation as Narrowing the Socio-Technical Gap](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2306.03100/) (2023)
- [Octopi: Object Property Reasoning with Large Tactile-Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2405.02794/) (2024)
- [BadRobot: Jailbreaking Embodied LLM Agents in the Physical World](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2407.20242/) (2024)
- [Safety Guardrails for LLM-Enabled Robots](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.07885/) (2025)
- [OK-Robot: What Really Matters in Integrating Open-Knowledge Models for Robotics](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2401.12202/) (2024)
- [FACTR: Force-Attending Curriculum Training for Contact-Rich Policy Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.17432/) (2025)
- [Exploring the Robustness of Decision-Level Through Adversarial Attacks on LLM-Based Embodied Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2405.19802/) (2024)
- [Generating Robot Constitutions & Benchmarks for Semantic Safety](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.08663/) (2025)
- [Compromising Embodied Agents with Contextual Backdoor Attacks](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2408.02882/) (2024)
- [Learning to Learn Faster from Human Feedback with Language Model Predictive Control](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2402.11450/) (2024)
- [DexForce: Extracting Force-informed Actions from Kinesthetic Demonstrations for Dexterous Manipulation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.10356/) (2025)
- [On the Vulnerability of LLM/VLM-Controlled Robotics](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2402.10340/) (2024)
- [Towards Open-World Grasping with Large Vision-Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2406.18722/) (2024)
- [Robot Collapse: Supply Chain Backdoor Attacks Against VLM-based Robotic Manipulation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2411.11683/) (2024)
- [Easier Said Than Done: Unpacking Intent-Behavior Gap in Jailbreaking LLM-Based Robots](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2412.16633/) (2024)
- [RoboDexVLM: Visual Language Model-Enabled Task Planning and Motion Control for Dexterous Robot Manipulation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.01616/) (2025)
- [GraspSAM: When Segment Anything Model Meets Grasp Detection](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2409.12521/) (2024)

## Built on by (most cited first, 1 of 1)

- [On the Dual-Use Dilemma in Physical Reasoning and Force](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.18792/) (2025)

## Abstract (arXiv)

Vision language models (VLMs) exhibit vast knowledge of the physical world, including intuition of physical and spatial properties, affordances, and motion. With fine-tuning, VLMs can also natively produce robot trajectories. We demonstrate that eliciting wrenches, not trajectories, allows VLMs to explicitly reason about forces and leads to zero-shot generalization in a series of manipulation tasks without pretraining. We achieve this by overlaying a consistent visual representation of relevant coordinate frames on robot-attached camera images to augment our query. First, we show how this addition enables a versatile motion control framework evaluated across four tasks (opening and closing a lid, pushing a cup or chair) spanning prismatic and rotational motion, an order of force and position magnitude, different camera perspectives, annotation schemes, and two robot platforms over 220 experiments, resulting in 51% success across the four tasks. Then, we demonstrate that the proposed framework enables VLMs to continually reason about interaction feedback to recover from task failure or incompletion, with and without human supervision. Finally, we observe that prompting schemes with visual annotation and embodied reasoning can bypass VLM safeguards. We characterize prompt component contribution to harmful behavior elicitation and discuss its implications for developing embodied reasoning. Our code, videos, and data are available at: https://scalingforce.github.io/.
