# Is there Value in Reinforcement Learning?

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.04822 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.04822/

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- First posted on arXiv 7 May 2025.

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- Deep reinforcement learning methods / [Deep RL algorithms and representations](https://mlsanity.com/deeprl/deep-rl-algorithms-and-representations/)

## Builds on (most cited first, 4 of 4)

- [Bridging the Gap Between Value and Policy Based Reinforcement Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1702.08892/) (2017)
- [Variational Policy Gradient Method for Reinforcement Learning with General Utilities](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2007.02151/) (2020)
- [Reward is enough for convex MDPs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2106.00661/) (2021)
- [Bridging RL Theory and Practice with the Effective Horizon](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2304.09853/) (2023)

## Abstract (arXiv)

Action-values play a central role in popular Reinforcement Learing (RL) models of behavior. Yet, the idea that action-values are explicitly represented has been extensively debated. Critics had therefore repeatedly suggested that policy-gradient (PG) models should be favored over value-based (VB) ones, as a potential solution for this dilemma. Here we argue that this solution is unsatisfying. This is because PG methods are not, in fact, "Value-free" -- while they do not rely on an explicit representation of Value for acting (stimulus-response mapping), they do require it for learning. Hence, switching to PG models is, per se, insufficient for eliminating Value from models of behavior. More broadly, the requirement for a representation of Value stems from the underlying assumptions regarding the optimization objective posed by the standard RL framework, not from the particular algorithm chosen to solve it. Previous studies mostly took these standard RL assumptions for granted, as part of their conceptualization or problem modeling, while debating the different methods used to optimize it (i.e., PG or VB). We propose that, instead, the focus of the debate should shift to critically evaluating the underlying modeling assumptions. Such evaluation is particularly important from an experimental perspective. Indeed, the very notion of Value must be reconsidered when standard assumptions (e.g., risk neutrality, full-observability, Markovian environment, exponential discounting) are relaxed, as is likely in natural settings. Finally, we use the Value debate as a case study to argue in favor of a more nuanced, algorithmic rather than statistical, view of what constitutes "a model" in cognitive sciences. Our analysis suggests that besides "parametric" statistical complexity, additional aspects such as computational complexity must also be taken into account when evaluating model complexity.