# The Point, the Vision and the Text: Does Point Cloud Boost Spatial Reasoning of Large Language Models? A Bias-Controlled Study

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.04540 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.04540/

## Key facts

- Cited by 5 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in Spatial and embodied reasoning, one of 17 directions in LLM reasoning.
- Builds on 24 of its 56 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 6 Apr 2025.

## Placed in

- LLM reasoning / [Spatial and embodied reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/lr/spatial-and-embodied-reasoning/)

## Builds on (most cited first, 24 of 24)

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- [Gemini 1.5: Unlocking multimodal understanding across millions of tokens of context](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2403.05530/) (2024)
- [Efficient Streaming Language Models with Attention Sinks](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2309.17453/) (2023)
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- [Gemini: A Family of Highly Capable Multimodal Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2312.11805/) (2023)
- [DeepSeek-V3 Technical Report](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2412.19437/) (2024)
- [Thinking in Space: How Multimodal Large Language Models See, Remember, and Recall Spaces](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2412.14171/) (2024)
- [An Embodied Generalist Agent in 3D World](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2311.12871/) (2023)
- [SQA3D: Situated Question Answering in 3D Scenes](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2210.07474/) (2022)
- [LLaVA-3D: A Simple yet Effective Pathway to Empowering LMMs with 3D-awareness](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2409.18125/) (2024)
- [MLLMs Know Where to Look: Training-free Perception of Small Visual Details with Multimodal LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.17422/) (2025)
- [Chat-Scene: Bridging 3D Scene and Large Language Models with Object Identifiers](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2312.08168/) (2023)
- [LLaVA-Mini: Efficient Image and Video Large Multimodal Models with One Vision Token](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.03895/) (2025)
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- [Chat-3D: Data-efficiently Tuning Large Language Model for Universal Dialogue of 3D Scenes](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2308.08769/) (2023)
- [Towards Interpreting Visual Information Processing in Vision-Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2410.07149/) (2024)
- [GPT4Scene: Understand 3D Scenes from Videos with Vision-Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.01428/) (2025)
- [Lexicon3D: Probing Visual Foundation Models for Complex 3D Scene Understanding](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2409.03757/) (2024)
- [Lan-grasp: Using Large Language Models for Semantic Object Grasping and Placement](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2310.05239/) (2023)
- [Understanding and Evaluating Hallucinations in 3D Visual Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.15888/) (2025)

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- [AirCopBench: A Benchmark for Multi-drone Collaborative Embodied Perception and Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2511.11025/) (2025)
- [AlloSpatial: Agentic Harness Framework for Spatial Reasoning in Foundation Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2606.08952/) (2026)
- [World2Mind: Cognition Toolkit for Allocentric Spatial Reasoning in Foundation Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2603.09774/) (2026)
- [Flame3D: Zero-shot Compositional Reasoning of 3D Scenes with Agentic Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2605.09218/) (2026)
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## Abstract (arXiv)

3D Large Language Models (LLMs) leveraging spatial information in point clouds for 3D spatial reasoning attract great attention. Despite some promising results, the advantages of point clouds over other modalities remain unclear. Moreover, existing 3D benchmarks are insufficient for fairly evaluating the ability of multimodal LLMs to comprehend spatial concepts. To address these challenges, we introduce ScanReQA, a 3D spatial reasoning benchmark encompassing text, vision, and point cloud modalities. We then evaluate the performance of text, 2D, and 3D LLMs on the benchmark to compare the effectiveness of different modalities in understanding spatial concepts. Furthermore, we analyze the reasoning mechanisms behind 3D LLMs using point clouds. Our findings reveal that: 1) binary spatial reasoning remains challenging for current 3D LLMs, 2) MLLMs based on point cloud and visual modalities demonstrate stronger spatial reasoning capabilities than LLMs, and 3) 3D LLMs exhibit the attention sink phenomenon similar to that in 2D LLMs, impairing spatial reasoning. We think these conclusions can help the next step of 3D LLMs and also offer insights for foundation models in other modalities. We release datasets and codes in the project page: https://github.com/EmbodiedCity/ScanReQA.code.