# Muon is Scalable for LLM Training

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.16982 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.16982/

## Key facts

- Cited by 428 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in Efficient MoE training and inference systems, one of 12 directions in Mixture-of-experts.
- Builds on 34 of its 46 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 24 Feb 2025.

## Placed in

- Mixture-of-experts / [Efficient MoE training and inference systems](https://mlsanity.com/moe/efficient-moe-training-and-inference-systems/)

## Builds on (most cited first, 30 of 34)

- [Adam: A Method for Stochastic Optimization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1412.6980/) (2014)
- [The Llama 3 Herd of Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2407.21783/) (2024)
- [Training Verifiers to Solve Math Word Problems](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2110.14168/) (2021)
- [Evaluating Large Language Models Trained on Code](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2107.03374/) (2021)
- [Measuring Massive Multitask Language Understanding](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2009.03300/) (2020)
- [Scaling Laws for Neural Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2001.08361/) (2020)
- [Measuring Mathematical Problem Solving With the MATH Dataset](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2103.03874/) (2021)
- [Qwen2.5 Technical Report](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2412.15115/) (2024)
- [Program Synthesis with Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2108.07732/) (2021)
- [Training Compute-Optimal Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2203.15556/) (2022)
- [TriviaQA: A Large Scale Distantly Supervised Challenge Dataset for Reading Comprehension](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1705.03551/) (2017)
- [Gemma 2: Improving Open Language Models at a Practical Size](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2408.00118/) (2024)
- [Megatron-LM: Training Multi-Billion Parameter Language Models Using Model Parallelism](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1909.08053/) (2019)
- [MMLU-Pro: A More Robust and Challenging Multi-Task Language Understanding Benchmark](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2406.01574/) (2024)
- [Challenging BIG-Bench Tasks and Whether Chain-of-Thought Can Solve Them](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2210.09261/) (2022)
- [ZeRO: Memory Optimizations Toward Training Trillion Parameter Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1910.02054/) (2019)
- [Kimi k1.5: Scaling Reinforcement Learning with LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.12599/) (2025)
- [DeepSeek-V2: A Strong, Economical, and Efficient Mixture-of-Experts Language Model](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2405.04434/) (2024)
- [Tulu 3: Pushing Frontiers in Open Language Model Post-Training](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2411.15124/) (2024)
- [Fast Transformer Decoding: One Write-Head is All You Need](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1911.02150/) (2019)
- [C-Eval: A Multi-Level Multi-Discipline Chinese Evaluation Suite for Foundation Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2305.08322/) (2023)
- [DeepSeek LLM: Scaling Open-Source Language Models with Longtermism](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2401.02954/) (2024)
- [CMMLU: Measuring massive multitask language understanding in Chinese](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2306.09212/) (2023)
- [2 OLMo 2 Furious](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.00656/) (2024)
- [Sophia: A Scalable Stochastic Second-order Optimizer for Language Model Pre-training](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2305.14342/) (2023)
- [Old Optimizer, New Norm: An Anthology](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2409.20325/) (2024)
- [SOAP: Improving and Stabilizing Shampoo using Adam](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2409.11321/) (2024)
- [Training Deep Learning Models with Norm-Constrained LMOs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.07529/) (2025)
- [CMATH: Can Your Language Model Pass Chinese Elementary School Math Test?](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2306.16636/) (2023)
- [MARS: Unleashing the Power of Variance Reduction for Training Large Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2411.10438/) (2024)

## Built on by (most cited first, 30 of 428)

- [DeepSeek-V4: Towards Highly Efficient Million-Token Context Intelligence](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2606.19348/) (2026)
- [Kimi K2: Open Agentic Intelligence](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2507.20534/) (2025)
- [Kimi K2.5: Visual Agentic Intelligence](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2602.02276/) (2026)
- [GLM-4.5: Agentic, Reasoning, and Coding (ARC) Foundation Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2508.06471/) (2025)
- [Kimi-VL Technical Report](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.07491/) (2025)
- [Kimi-Audio Technical Report](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.18425/) (2025)
- [Kimi Linear: An Expressive, Efficient Attention Architecture](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2510.26692/) (2025)
- [SpaceR: Reinforcing MLLMs in Video Spatial Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.01805/) (2025)
- [Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2607.24653/) (2026)
- [The Polar Express: Optimal Matrix Sign Methods and Their Application to the Muon Algorithm](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.16932/) (2025)
- [Understanding Gradient Orthogonalization for Deep Learning via Non-Euclidean Trust-Region Optimization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.12645/) (2025)
- [Muon Optimizes Under Spectral Norm Constraints](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2506.15054/) (2025)
- [Conditional Memory via Scalable Lookup: A New Axis of Sparsity for Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2601.07372/) (2026)
- [NorMuon: Making Muon more efficient and scalable](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2510.05491/) (2025)
- [Practical Efficiency of Muon for Pretraining](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.02222/) (2025)
- [Gluon: Making Muon & Scion Great Again! (Bridging Theory and Practice of LMO-based Optimizers for LLMs)](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.13416/) (2025)
- [Dion: Distributed Orthonormalized Updates](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.05295/) (2025)
- [AdaMuon: Adaptive Muon Optimizer](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2507.11005/) (2025)
- [Attention Residuals](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2603.15031/) (2026)
- [ASGO: Adaptive Structured Gradient Optimization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.20762/) (2025)
- [Ultralytics YOLO26: Unified Real-Time End-to-End Vision Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2606.03748/) (2026)
- [Deep Learning is Not So Mysterious or Different](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.02113/) (2025)
- [Muon Outperforms Adam in Tail-End Associative Memory Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2509.26030/) (2025)
- [Jet-Nemotron: Efficient Language Model with Post Neural Architecture Search](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2508.15884/) (2025)
- [In Search of Adam's Secret Sauce](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.21829/) (2025)
- [Isotropic Curvature Model for Understanding Deep Learning Optimization: Is Gradient Orthogonalization Optimal?](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2511.00674/) (2025)
- [Convergence of Muon with Newton-Schulz](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2601.19156/) (2026)
- [Native Video-Action Pretraining for Generalizable Robot Control](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2607.08639/) (2026)
- [MuonBP: Faster Muon via Block-Periodic Orthogonalization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2510.16981/) (2025)
- [On the Design of Qwen3.8-Next Architecture: Evaluation, Efficiency, and Training Stability](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2608.30320/) (2026)

## Abstract (arXiv)

Recently, the Muon optimizer based on matrix orthogonalization has demonstrated strong results in training small-scale language models, but the scalability to larger models has not been proven. We identify two crucial techniques for scaling up Muon: (1) adding weight decay and (2) carefully adjusting the per-parameter update scale. These techniques allow Muon to work out-of-the-box on large-scale training without the need of hyper-parameter tuning. Scaling law experiments indicate that Muon achieves ~!2× computational efficiency compared to AdamW with compute optimal training. Based on these improvements, we introduce Moonlight, a 3B/16B-parameter Mixture-of-Expert (MoE) model trained with 5.7T tokens using Muon. Our model improves the current Pareto frontier, achieving better performance with much fewer training FLOPs compared to prior models. We open-source our distributed Muon implementation that is memory optimal and communication efficient. We also release the pretrained, instruction-tuned, and intermediate checkpoints to support future research.