# O1 Replication Journey -- Part 2: Surpassing O1-preview through Simple Distillation, Big Progress or Bitter Lesson?

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2411.16489 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2411.16489/

## Key facts

- Cited by 92 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in Test-time compute and efficient thinking, one of 17 directions in LLM reasoning.
- Builds on 20 of its 34 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 25 Nov 2024.

## Placed in

- LLM reasoning / [Test-time compute and efficient thinking](https://mlsanity.com/lr/test-time-compute-and-efficient-thinking/)
- Knowledge distillation / [Knowledge distillation for LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/distill/knowledge-distillation-for-llms/)

## Builds on (most cited first, 20 of 20)

- [Language Models are Few-Shot Learners](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2005.14165/) (2020)
- [Training language models to follow instructions with human feedback](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2203.02155/) (2022)
- [Distilling the Knowledge in a Neural Network](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1503.02531/) (2015)
- [Evaluating Large Language Models Trained on Code](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2107.03374/) (2021)
- [Self-Consistency Improves Chain of Thought Reasoning in Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2203.11171/) (2022)
- [Measuring Mathematical Problem Solving With the MATH Dataset](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2103.03874/) (2021)
- [Deep reinforcement learning from human preferences](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1706.03741/) (2017)
- [Let's Verify Step by Step](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2305.20050/) (2023)
- [Program Synthesis with Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2108.07732/) (2021)
- [Fine-Tuning Language Models from Human Preferences](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1909.08593/) (2019)
- [Scaling LLM Test-Time Compute Optimally can be More Effective than Scaling Model Parameters](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2408.03314/) (2024)
- [WizardLM: Empowering large pre-trained language models to follow complex instructions](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2304.12244/) (2023)
- [LIMA: Less Is More for Alignment](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2305.11206/) (2023)
- [Qwen2.5-Math Technical Report: Toward Mathematical Expert Model via Self-Improvement](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2409.12122/) (2024)
- [Textbooks Are All You Need](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2306.11644/) (2023)
- [RARR: Researching and Revising What Language Models Say, Using Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2210.08726/) (2022)
- [FacTool: Factuality Detection in Generative AI -- A Tool Augmented Framework for Multi-Task and Multi-Domain Scenarios](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2307.13528/) (2023)
- [O1 Replication Journey: A Strategic Progress Report -- Part 1](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2410.18982/) (2024)
- [On the Safety of Conversational Models: Taxonomy, Dataset, and Benchmark](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2110.08466/) (2021)
- [SAFETY-J: Evaluating Safety with Critique](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2407.17075/) (2024)

## Built on by (most cited first, 30 of 92)

- [s1: Simple test-time scaling](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.19393/) (2025)
- [LIMO: Less is More for Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.03387/) (2025)
- [Towards Reasoning Era: A Survey of Long Chain-of-Thought for Reasoning Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.09567/) (2025)
- [ToolRL: Reward is All Tool Learning Needs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.13958/) (2025)
- [From System 1 to System 2: A Survey of Reasoning Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.17419/) (2025)
- [rStar-Math: Small LLMs Can Master Math Reasoning with Self-Evolved Deep Thinking](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.04519/) (2025)
- [A Survey on Test-Time Scaling in Large Language Models: What, How, Where, and How Well?](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.24235/) (2025)
- [ToRL: Scaling Tool-Integrated RL](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.23383/) (2025)
- [Imitate, Explore, and Self-Improve: A Reproduction Report on Slow-thinking Reasoning Systems](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2412.09413/) (2024)
- [Can 1B LLM Surpass 405B LLM? Rethinking Compute-Optimal Test-Time Scaling](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.06703/) (2025)
- [LLMs Can Easily Learn to Reason from Demonstrations Structure, not content, is what matters!](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.07374/) (2025)
- [OpenVLThinker: Complex Vision-Language Reasoning via Iterative SFT-RL Cycles](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.17352/) (2025)
- [Towards Thinking-Optimal Scaling of Test-Time Compute for LLM Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.18080/) (2025)
- [A Survey of Frontiers in LLM Reasoning: Inference Scaling, Learning to Reason, and Agentic Systems](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.09037/) (2025)
- [MedReason: Eliciting Factual Medical Reasoning Steps in LLMs via Knowledge Graphs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.00993/) (2025)
- [Agentic Large Language Models, a survey](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.23037/) (2025)
- [Agentic Reasoning: A Streamlined Framework for Enhancing LLM Reasoning with Agentic Tools](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.04644/) (2025)
- [Revisiting the Test-Time Scaling of o1-like Models: Do they Truly Possess Test-Time Scaling Capabilities?](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.12215/) (2025)
- [Pangu Embedded: An Efficient Dual-system LLM Reasoner with Metacognition](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.22375/) (2025)
- [Training a Scientific Reasoning Model for Chemistry](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2506.17238/) (2025)
- [Satori: Reinforcement Learning with Chain-of-Action-Thought Enhances LLM Reasoning via Autoregressive Search](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.02508/) (2025)
- [Does Thinking More always Help? Mirage of Test-Time Scaling in Reasoning Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2506.04210/) (2025)
- [Exploring the Limit of Outcome Reward for Learning Mathematical Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.06781/) (2025)
- [Scaling of Search and Learning: A Roadmap to Reproduce o1 from Reinforcement Learning Perspective](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2412.14135/) (2024)
- [Crosslingual Reasoning through Test-Time Scaling](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.05408/) (2025)
- [Deconstructing Long Chain-of-Thought: A Structured Reasoning Optimization Framework for Long CoT Distillation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.16385/) (2025)
- [A Survey of Test-Time Compute: From Intuitive Inference to Deliberate Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.02497/) (2025)
- [The Hallucination Tax of Reinforcement Finetuning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.13988/) (2025)
- [Long-Short Chain-of-Thought Mixture Supervised Fine-Tuning Eliciting Efficient Reasoning in Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.03469/) (2025)
- [Linguistic Generalizability of Test-Time Scaling in Mathematical Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.17407/) (2025)

## Abstract (arXiv)

This paper presents a critical examination of current approaches to replicating OpenAI's O1 model capabilities, with particular focus on the widespread but often undisclosed use of knowledge distillation techniques. While our previous work explored the fundamental technical path to O1 replication, this study reveals how simple distillation from O1's API, combined with supervised fine-tuning, can achieve superior performance on complex mathematical reasoning tasks. Through extensive experiments, we show that a base model fine-tuned on simply tens of thousands of samples O1-distilled long-thought chains outperforms O1-preview on the American Invitational Mathematics Examination (AIME) with minimal technical complexity. Moreover, our investigation extends beyond mathematical reasoning to explore the generalization capabilities of O1-distilled models across diverse tasks: hallucination, safety and open-domain QA. Notably, despite training only on mathematical problem-solving data, our models demonstrated strong generalization to open-ended QA tasks and became significantly less susceptible to sycophancy after fine-tuning. We deliberately make this finding public to promote transparency in AI research and to challenge the current trend of obscured technical claims in the field. Our work includes: (1) A detailed technical exposition of the distillation process and its effectiveness, (2) A comprehensive benchmark framework for evaluating and categorizing O1 replication attempts based on their technical transparency and reproducibility, (3) A critical discussion of the limitations and potential risks of over-relying on distillation approaches, our analysis culminates in a crucial bitter lesson: while the pursuit of more capable AI systems is important, the development of researchers grounded in first-principles thinking is paramount.