# Towards a Theoretical Understanding of Synthetic Data in LLM Post-Training: A Reverse-Bottleneck Perspective

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.01720 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2410.01720/

## Key facts

- Cited by 15 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in LLM synthetic data generation, one of 13 directions in Synthetic data and self-improvement for LLMs.
- Builds on 23 of its 31 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 2 Oct 2024.

## Placed in

- Synthetic data and self-improvement for LLMs / [LLM synthetic data generation](https://mlsanity.com/synth/llm-synthetic-data-generation/)

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- [GDA: Generative Data Augmentation Techniques for Relation Extraction Tasks](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2305.16663/) (2023)
- [Synth-Empathy: Towards High-Quality Synthetic Empathy Data](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2407.21669/) (2024)
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## Abstract (arXiv)

Synthetic data has become a pivotal resource in post-training tasks for large language models (LLMs) due to the scarcity of high-quality, specific data. While various methods have been developed to generate synthetic data, there remains a discernible gap between the practical effects of synthetic data and our theoretical comprehension. To address this challenge, we commence by presenting a detailed modeling of the prevalent synthetic data generation process. Building upon this modeling, we demonstrate that the generalization capability of the post-trained model is critically determined by the information gain derived from the generative model, as analyzed from a novel reverse-bottleneck perspective. Moreover, we introduce the concept of Generalization Gain via Mutual Information (GGMI) and elucidate the relationship between generalization gain and information gain. This analysis serves as a theoretical foundation for synthetic data generation and further highlights its connection with the generalization capability of post-trained models, offering an understanding about the design of synthetic data generation techniques and the optimization of the post-training process. We open-source our code at https://github.com/ZyGan1999/Towards-a-Theoretical-Understanding-of-Synthetic-Data-in-LLM-Post-Training.