# VinePPO: Refining Credit Assignment in RL Training of LLMs

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.01679 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2410.01679/

## Key facts

- Cited by 183 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Builds on 35 of its 46 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 2 Oct 2024.

## Builds on (most cited first, 30 of 35)

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- [Let's Verify Step by Step](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2305.20050/) (2023)
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- [Solving math word problems with process- and outcome-based feedback](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2211.14275/) (2022)
- [Reasoning with Language Model is Planning with World Model](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2305.14992/) (2023)
- [Mastering Chess and Shogi by Self-Play with a General Reinforcement Learning Algorithm](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1712.01815/) (2017)
- [Improve Mathematical Reasoning in Language Models by Automated Process Supervision](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2406.06592/) (2024)
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- [Tulu 3: Pushing Frontiers in Open Language Model Post-Training](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2411.15124/) (2024)
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- [Reinforcement Learning via Self-Distillation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2601.20802/) (2026)
- [Towards Large Reasoning Models: A Survey of Reinforced Reasoning with Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.09686/) (2025)
- [A Survey on Test-Time Scaling in Large Language Models: What, How, Where, and How Well?](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.24235/) (2025)
- [The Landscape of Agentic Reinforcement Learning for LLMs: A Survey](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2509.02547/) (2025)
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- [Optimizing Test-Time Compute via Meta Reinforcement Fine-Tuning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2503.07572/) (2025)
- [Self-Evolving Curriculum for LLM Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.14970/) (2025)
- [A Survey of Frontiers in LLM Reasoning: Inference Scaling, Learning to Reason, and Agentic Systems](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.09037/) (2025)
- [Towards System 2 Reasoning in LLMs: Learning How to Think With Meta Chain-of-Thought](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.04682/) (2025)
- [Reinforcement Learning for Long-Horizon Interactive LLM Agents](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.01600/) (2025)
- [DeepSeek-R1 Thoughtology: Let's think about LLM Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.07128/) (2025)
- [Scaling Test-Time Compute Without Verification or RL is Suboptimal](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.12118/) (2025)
- [Tree Search for LLM Agent Reinforcement Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2509.21240/) (2025)
- [T1: Advancing Language Model Reasoning through Reinforcement Learning and Inference Scaling](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2501.11651/) (2025)
- [Asynchronous RLHF: Faster and More Efficient Off-Policy RL for Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2410.18252/) (2024)
- [Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2504.12501/) (2025)
- [Exploring the Limit of Outcome Reward for Learning Mathematical Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.06781/) (2025)
- [Can Prompt Difficulty be Online Predicted for Accelerating RL Finetuning of Reasoning Models?](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2507.04632/) (2025)
- [TreeRPO: Tree Relative Policy Optimization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2506.05183/) (2025)
- [Prompt Curriculum Learning for Efficient LLM Post-Training](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2510.01135/) (2025)
- [LlamaRL: A Distributed Asynchronous Reinforcement Learning Framework for Efficient Large-scale LLM Training](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.24034/) (2025)
- [RL Tango: Reinforcing Generator and Verifier Together for Language Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.15034/) (2025)
- [Stabilizing Knowledge, Promoting Reasoning: Dual-Token Constraints for RLVR](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2507.15778/) (2025)
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- [AgentProcessBench: Diagnosing Step-Level Process Quality in Tool-Using Agents](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2603.14465/) (2026)
- [On the Design of KL-Regularized Policy Gradient Algorithms for LLM Reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2505.17508/) (2025)
- [Topology of Reasoning: Understanding Large Reasoning Models through Reasoning Graph Properties](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2506.05744/) (2025)
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## Abstract (arXiv)

Large language models (LLMs) are increasingly applied to complex reasoning tasks that require executing several complex steps before receiving any reward. Properly assigning credit to these steps is essential for enhancing model performance. Proximal Policy Optimization (PPO), a common reinforcement learning (RL) algorithm used for LLM finetuning, employs value networks to tackle credit assignment. However, recent approaches achieve strong results without it, raising questions about the efficacy of value networks in practice. In this work, we systematically evaluate the efficacy of value networks and reveal their significant shortcomings in reasoning-heavy LLM tasks, showing that they often produce poor estimate of expected return and barely outperform a random baseline when comparing alternative steps. This motivates our key question: Can improved credit assignment enhance RL training for LLMs? To address this, we propose VinePPO, a straightforward approach that leverages the flexibility of language environments to compute unbiased Monte Carlo-based estimates. Our method consistently outperforms PPO and other baselines across MATH and GSM8K datasets in less wall-clock time (up to 3.0x). Crucially, it achieves higher test accuracy for a given training accuracy, capturing more generalization signal per sample. These results emphasize the importance of accurate credit assignment in RL training of LLM.