# Detect, Describe, Discriminate: Moving Beyond VQA for MLLM Evaluation

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.15125 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2409.15125/

## Key facts

- Cited by 4 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Placed in VLM benchmarks and visual reasoning, one of 16 directions in Multimodal LLMs / vision-language models.
- Builds on 25 of its 27 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 23 Sep 2024.

## Placed in

- Multimodal LLMs / vision-language models / [VLM benchmarks and visual reasoning](https://mlsanity.com/mllm/vlm-benchmarks-and-visual-reasoning/)

## Builds on (most cited first, 25 of 25)

- [GPT-4 Technical Report](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2303.08774/) (2023)
- [The Llama 3 Herd of Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2407.21783/) (2024)
- [Judging LLM-as-a-Judge with MT-Bench and Chatbot Arena](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2306.05685/) (2023)
- [Sigmoid Loss for Language Image Pre-Training](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2303.15343/) (2023)
- [Training Compute-Optimal Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2203.15556/) (2022)
- [InstructBLIP: Towards General-purpose Vision-Language Models with Instruction Tuning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2305.06500/) (2023)
- [MMMU: A Massive Multi-discipline Multimodal Understanding and Reasoning Benchmark for Expert AGI](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2311.16502/) (2023)
- [MathVista: Evaluating Mathematical Reasoning of Foundation Models in Visual Contexts](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2310.02255/) (2023)
- [ShareGPT4V: Improving Large Multi-Modal Models with Better Captions](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2311.12793/) (2023)
- [Chameleon: Mixed-Modal Early-Fusion Foundation Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2405.09818/) (2024)
- [Are We on the Right Way for Evaluating Large Vision-Language Models?](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2403.20330/) (2024)
- [Cambrian-1: A Fully Open, Vision-Centric Exploration of Multimodal LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2406.16860/) (2024)
- [Eyes Wide Shut? Exploring the Visual Shortcomings of Multimodal LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2401.06209/) (2024)
- [LLaVA-NeXT-Interleave: Tackling Multi-image, Video, and 3D in Large Multimodal Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2407.07895/) (2024)
- [BLINK: Multimodal Large Language Models Can See but Not Perceive](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2404.12390/) (2024)
- [Winoground: Probing Vision and Language Models for Visio-Linguistic Compositionality](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2204.03162/) (2022)
- [V*: Guided Visual Search as a Core Mechanism in Multimodal LLMs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2312.14135/) (2023)
- [Learning to Describe Differences Between Pairs of Similar Images](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1808.10584/) (2018)
- [VeCLIP: Improving CLIP Training via Visual-enriched Captions](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2310.07699/) (2023)
- [AI2D-RST: A multimodal corpus of 1000 primary school science diagrams](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1912.03879/) (2019)
- [From Pixels to Prose: A Large Dataset of Dense Image Captions](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2406.10328/) (2024)
- [Show, Tell and Discriminate: Image Captioning by Self-retrieval with Partially Labeled Data](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1803.08314/) (2018)
- [CounterCurate: Enhancing Physical and Semantic Visio-Linguistic Compositional Reasoning via Counterfactual Examples](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2402.13254/) (2024)
- [Concadia: Towards Image-Based Text Generation with a Purpose](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2104.08376/) (2021)
- [No Detail Left Behind: Revisiting Self-Retrieval for Fine-Grained Image Captioning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2409.03025/) (2024)

## Built on by (most cited first, 4 of 4)

- [Revisiting MLLMs: An In-Depth Analysis of Image Classification Abilities](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2412.16418/) (2024)
- [Symmetrical Visual Contrastive Optimization: Aligning Vision-Language Models with Minimal Contrastive Images](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.13928/) (2025)
- [Is 'Right' Right? Enhancing Object Orientation Understanding in Multimodal Large Language Models through Egocentric Instruction Tuning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2411.16761/) (2024)
- [Children's Intelligence Tests Pose Challenges for MLLMs? KidGym: A 2D Grid-Based Reasoning Benchmark for MLLMs](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2603.20209/) (2026)

## Abstract (arXiv)

Visual Question Answering (VQA) with multiple choice questions enables a vision-centric evaluation of Multimodal Large Language Models (MLLMs). Although it reliably checks the existence of specific visual abilities, it is easier for the model to select an answer from multiple choices (VQA evaluation) than to generate the answer itself. In this work, we offer a novel perspective: we evaluate how well an MLLM understands a specific visual concept by its ability to uniquely describe two extremely similar images that differ only in the targeted visual concept. Specifically, we assess the ability of MLLMs to capture specific points of visual differences using self-retrieval, i.e., by retrieving the target image using its generated caption against the other image in the pair serving as the distractor. We curate 247 highly similar image pairs as part of the D3 benchmark. For each image pair, the model is prompted to: (1) Detect a specific visual difference, and (2) Describe the target image uniquely such that it (3) Discriminates the target image from the distractor. Self-retrieval within D3 enables whitebox evaluation across six different visual patterns, revealing that current models struggle to independently discern fine-grained visual differences, with open-source models failing to outperform random guess.