# Is It a Free Lunch for Removing Outliers during Pretraining?

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.12102 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2402.12102/

## Key facts

- Cited by 2 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Builds on 16 of its 19 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 19 Feb 2024.

## Builds on (most cited first, 16 of 16)

- [BERT: Pre-training of Deep Bidirectional Transformers for Language Understanding](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1810.04805/) (2018)
- [LLaMA: Open and Efficient Foundation Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2302.13971/) (2023)
- [RoBERTa: A Robustly Optimized BERT Pretraining Approach](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1907.11692/) (2019)
- [GLUE: A Multi-Task Benchmark and Analysis Platform for Natural Language Understanding](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1804.07461/) (2018)
- [OPT: Open Pre-trained Transformer Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2205.01068/) (2022)
- [GPTQ: Accurate Post-Training Quantization for Generative Pre-trained Transformers](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2210.17323/) (2022)
- [Quantization and Training of Neural Networks for Efficient Integer-Arithmetic-Only Inference](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1712.05877/) (2017)
- [SmoothQuant: Accurate and Efficient Post-Training Quantization for Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2211.10438/) (2022)
- [AWQ: Activation-aware Weight Quantization for LLM Compression and Acceleration](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2306.00978/) (2023)
- [Aligning Books and Movies: Towards Story-like Visual Explanations by Watching Movies and Reading Books](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1506.06724/) (2015)
- [LLM.int8(): 8-bit Matrix Multiplication for Transformers at Scale](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2208.07339/) (2022)
- [Quantizing deep convolutional networks for efficient inference: A whitepaper](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1806.08342/) (2018)
- [Revealing the Dark Secrets of BERT](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1908.08593/) (2019)
- [Quantizable Transformers: Removing Outliers by Helping Attention Heads Do Nothing](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2306.12929/) (2023)
- [Understanding and Overcoming the Challenges of Efficient Transformer Quantization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2109.12948/) (2021)
- [Intriguing Properties of Quantization at Scale](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2305.19268/) (2023)

## Built on by (most cited first, 2 of 2)

- [Systematic Outliers in Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2502.06415/) (2025)
- [Attention Sink in Transformers: A Survey on Utilization, Interpretation, and Mitigation](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2604.10098/) (2026)

## Abstract (arXiv)

With the growing size of large language models, the role of quantization becomes increasingly significant. However, outliers present in weights or activations notably influence the performance of quantized models. Recently, citetqtransformer introduced a novel softmax function aimed at pretraining models in an outlier-free manner, thereby enhancing their suitability for quantization. Interestingly, we observed that such an approach leads to performance degradation in full precision. Building on this insight, we enhance the method by ensuring its normalization is invariant to sequence length, a crucial factor for bridging the gap between pretraining and fine-tuning. Moreover, this improved method also facilitates successful pretraining of causal language models.