# Information Theoretic Lower Bounds for Information Theoretic Upper Bounds

arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/2302.04925 · HTML: https://mlsanity.com/paper/2302.04925/

## Key facts

- Cited by 17 papers in the map (data through 14 Oct 2026).
- Builds on 25 of its 46 references that are in the map.
- First posted on arXiv 9 Feb 2023.

## Builds on (most cited first, 25 of 25)

- [Extracting Training Data from Large Language Models](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2012.07805/) (2020)
- [Introduction to Online Convex Optimization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1909.05207/) (2019)
- [Does Learning Require Memorization? A Short Tale about a Long Tail](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1906.05271/) (2019)
- [In Search of the Real Inductive Bias: On the Role of Implicit Regularization in Deep Learning](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1412.6614/) (2014)
- [Information-theoretic analysis of generalization capability of learning algorithms](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1705.07809/) (2017)
- [Stability of Stochastic Gradient Descent on Nonsmooth Convex Losses](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2006.06914/) (2020)
- [Reasoning About Generalization via Conditional Mutual Information](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2001.09122/) (2020)
- [Information-Theoretic Generalization Bounds for SGLD via Data-Dependent Estimates](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1911.02151/) (2019)
- [Tightening Mutual Information Based Bounds on Generalization Error](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1901.04609/) (2019)
- [Privately Learning High-Dimensional Distributions](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1805.00216/) (2018)
- [How much does your data exploration overfit? Controlling bias via information usage](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1511.05219/) (2015)
- [Sharpened Generalization Bounds based on Conditional Mutual Information and an Application to Noisy, Iterative Algorithms](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2004.12983/) (2020)
- [Information-Theoretic Generalization Bounds for Stochastic Gradient Descent](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2102.00931/) (2021)
- [Fingerprinting Codes and the Price of Approximate Differential Privacy](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1311.3158/) (2013)
- [Generalization Error Bounds for Noisy, Iterative Algorithms](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1801.04295/) (2018)
- [An Equivalence Between Private Classification and Online Prediction](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2003.00563/) (2020)
- [SGD Generalizes Better Than GD (And Regularization Doesn't Help)](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2102.01117/) (2021)
- [Generalization of ERM in Stochastic Convex Optimization: The Dimension Strikes Back](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1608.04414/) (2016)
- [Interactive Fingerprinting Codes and the Hardness of Preventing False Discovery](https://mlsanity.com/paper/1410.1228/) (2014)
- [Individually Conditional Individual Mutual Information Bound on Generalization Error](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2012.09922/) (2020)
- [On Random Subset Generalization Error Bounds and the Stochastic Gradient Langevin Dynamics Algorithm](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2010.10994/) (2020)
- [A Limitation of the PAC-Bayes Framework](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2006.13508/) (2020)
- [Limitations of Information-Theoretic Generalization Bounds for Gradient Descent Methods in Stochastic Convex Optimization](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2212.13556/) (2022)
- [Never Go Full Batch (in Stochastic Convex Optimization)](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2107.00469/) (2021)
- [Finite Littlestone Dimension Implies Finite Information Complexity](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2206.13257/) (2022)

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- [Time-Independent Information-Theoretic Generalization Bounds for SGLD](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2311.01046/) (2023)
- [Data-dependent Generalization Bounds via Variable-Size Compressibility](https://mlsanity.com/paper/2303.05369/) (2023)
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## Abstract (arXiv)

We examine the relationship between the mutual information between the output model and the empirical sample and the generalization of the algorithm in the context of stochastic convex optimization. Despite increasing interest in information-theoretic generalization bounds, it is uncertain if these bounds can provide insight into the exceptional performance of various learning algorithms. Our study of stochastic convex optimization reveals that, for true risk minimization, dimension-dependent mutual information is necessary. This indicates that existing information-theoretic generalization bounds fall short in capturing the generalization capabilities of algorithms like SGD and regularized ERM, which have dimension-independent sample complexity.
